176 Reply by flowreen91

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pensioner600 wrote:

Can I ask you a few questions?

1. Both work, MPV slightly faster.
2. Both work. Use which one you have better results.
3. Search "resize" in settings and specify your exact resolution downscale value https://gyazo.com/755782ab2c201f627031aa450509fa10
    Try to add various shaders to regain visual quality.
    Probably not possible to apply the mpcVR downscaling shaders before SVP resize. Developers might know more.
4. 2 threads+, enabled. Use which one you have better results.
5. Ensemble = testing purposes, ignore it.
    V2 = faster than V1 because "v2 models handle paddings internally and reduce PCIe traffic flow", use with Performance boost enabled. Always use this.
    Lite = uses less resources, less precise, lower quality than non-Lite. It's ok cause allows 4K enjoyers to watch at 48 fps.
    Newer versions = usually smarter AI model so better smoothness
    https://www.svp-team.com/forum/viewtopi … 301#p84301
6. Search "rife_sc" in settings https://gyazo.com/f4966e81c9c0453f82c5c3de86de0b88

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177 Reply by flowreen91

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elocai wrote:

it works fine when I manually select to use the profile

Make sure only VapourSynth Filter has the "Prefer" checkbox
https://gyazo.com/ebc04ca3f970e73414afff14f1f9bbb2

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178 Reply by flowreen91

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reconhell wrote:

Any idea how to prevent this?

Latest RIFE says it fixes live action movies interference artifacts:
https://www.svp-team.com/forum/viewtopi … 347#p84347
Try to see if it fixes your issue by getting it from here:
https://github.com/AmusementClub/vs-mlr … nal-models

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179 Reply by flowreen91

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SHTH34D wrote:

TensorRT does not natively support INT64. Attempting to cast down to INT32

Probably just some information of what it's trying to do, that we have no control off.
Just ignore it, as long as it works.

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180 Reply by flowreen91

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unreality wrote:

Is there no solution for this?

As aloola said, the GPU doesn't have enough power yet for 24x3
We can only bypass it by reducing how many pixels we send to RIFE by using a resize setting lower than 4K resolution:
https://www.svp-team.com/forum/viewtopi … 264#p84264

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181 Reply by flowreen91

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unreality wrote:

but the TV does 50hz

Try to search "target" in the Application Settings and specify the exact value of your monitor:
https://gyazo.com/e9ccf345121d821d3180a40625c49bb4

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182 Reply by flowreen91

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SHTH34D wrote:

The command prompt also says resolution of 3840x2400 when I'm running at 3800x2160. I looked for a way to change that setting but I haven't found it anywhere.

https://gyazo.com/0128486aa19a32c7a565693fb0e84234

SHTH34D wrote:

I'm using MPC-HC with Vapousynth as that is what was recommended on the SVP instructions and by Chanik to me here in the forum for DV at 4k HDR.

Consider exploring MPV as an alternative.
In my experiments, I found that while MPC-HC struggles, MPV seamlessly drops frames and continues.
Additionally, aloola's analysis suggests that newer models demand more from your system, yet they offer substantial enhancements in interpolation. MPV supports the addition of shaders which can significantly improve image quality and sharpness. A clever workaround involves resizing a 4K image to 1080p for swift interpolation with RIFE on newer models, and then applying shaders to emulate the appearance of the original 4K quality.
Although the result won't exactly match the original source, it ensures a smooth viewing experience. Moreover, your RTX 4090 will handle it effortlessly, as upscaling is far less resource-intensive than interpolating a 4K HDR10 image.
Feel free to experiment with these techniques yourself:
MPV upscaling config: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/ … MSSZq0jJGj

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183 Reply by flowreen91

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badhomaks wrote:

The video at least seems to run.

Good to know u fixed it.
Always try to run RIFE with "Performance Boost" Enabled so it will reuse the generated cache file. They probably improved something and it takes less and less time to generate.
Never use the ensemble onnx cause it takes an overwhelming amount of processing power compared to the others.

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184 Reply by flowreen91

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Try latest RIFE 4.15 too because

dawkinscm wrote:

It is a clear improvement over previous models for reducing double images in fast movement.

SVP allows u to fill the gaps between their source frames

Sagan wrote:

For example, Work It Out, Wombats has the characters animate at ~15fps and the video is rendered at 30fps.

but if the animators were cost cutting trolls then not even AI will be able to smooth out their trash animations.

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185 Reply by flowreen91

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badhomaks wrote:

Internal Error (input: for dimension number 1 in profile 0 does not match network definition (got min=11, opt=11, max=11), expected min=opt=max=7).)

https://www.svp-team.com/forum/viewtopi … 125#p84125
https://www.svp-team.com/forum/viewtopi … 126#p84126

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186 Reply by flowreen91

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SHTH34D wrote:

I was having the stuttering performance at 50fps, but only 70% GPU usage at x2 (48fps). I have been using 4.9 but will look into 4.15.

I'm getting smooth 300 fps with these settings.
https://gyazo.com/a457e8297485eba27e2596f21d08c399
Try to play around with resize maybe?
https://www.svp-team.com/wiki/Manual:All_settings

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187 Reply by flowreen91

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Olombo wrote:

Still no improvement in mpv/mpc.

In a certain scenario on laptops, they might be run by default by the wrong GPU.
You can make sure they are correctly run by your 4090 by going to Windows -> Graphics Settings and selecting the correct GPU:
https://gyazo.com/0b3743c4a935c491ea4b4ffaae2f8580
For best RIFE performance according to @aloola's data, try to play around with Nvidia TensorRT and the 4.6 version:
https://gyazo.com/2a635348c44e379ccaca0520c0f3c6a2
First time i'm hearing that a 4090 is bottlenecked by an old CPU. xD

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188 Reply by flowreen91

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reconhell wrote:

Btw. if I turn off RTX video HDR in MPC-videorenderer settings, it will stop working

Glad u fixed it. Don't know, please show an image of this setting.
The Nvidia Filters basically apply the selected shaders on top of your image. So if u would have an HDR video and u would accidentally leave RTX HDR ON at the same time, you will see a badly colored video. Disable RTX HDR when playing HDR source videos.

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189 Reply by flowreen91

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reconhell wrote:

Problem is the app is not recognised by the beta app for filter. after following instructions.

Yes, the beta app is glitchy. Try restarting PC with only the HDR monitor connected.
Also make sure you have mpc hc at Manage 3D -> Programs settings added.
https://gyazo.com/40cc150b9b1775d1f506c8af0fddfa93
If still fails follow all steps from description tab from here https://www.nexusmods.com/site/mods/781
If still fails download TrueHDRTweaks from same link, put it in the mpc hc folder and forcefully set the settings that u want, without ever actually using the nvidia overlay.

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190 Reply by flowreen91

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reconhell wrote:

I use automatic so...
Why you think the ahsoka artefacts cant be fixed?

Can't reproduce the subtitles drastic movement on automatic on my system. Really curious if anyone else sees the same effect.
On that Ahsoka scene, a ship surrounded by clouds, flying through clouds with fast speed makes AI hard to predict the actual motion, i guess. I might be wrong here.

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191 Reply by flowreen91

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Record the anomaly and maybe people can reproduce if you provide them the same video you're watching.
Also an image of SVP configuration when u catch it. (something like this https://gyazo.com/1e6a09506e0c3ac249c4831a622654e7 )

From what i see, on older RIFE versions like 4.6 if your video has the subtitle burned in (you can't disable the subtitle) then it will try to apply the motion of the stuff behind it and accidentally wiggle the text.
This text wiggle disappears if the subtitle is on top of the interpolated video, or if you're using newer RIFE versions.

The Ahsoka artifacts don't think they can be fixed, but latest RIFE versions help a bit. xD

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192 Reply by flowreen91

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framo wrote:

im using ncnn/vulkan and theres no drop down menu for me, am i doing sthg wrong?
i downloaded the v4.14 model

For non Nvidia users, they can't use the Nvidia Tensor RT RIFE .onnx model files from here:
https://github.com/AmusementClub/vs-mlrt/releases
But i think they can play around with other ncnn/vulkan versions by downloading them from here:
https://github.com/TNTwise/rife-ncnn-vu … g/20240218
and replacing these two files:
"C:\Program Files (x86)\SVP 4\rife\rife-v4\flownet.bin"
"C:\Program Files (x86)\SVP 4\rife\rife-v4\flownet.param"

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193 Reply by flowreen91

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yongbin wrote:

but I do not have the Engine option.

Probably you have to install it separately by right clicking the SVP icon in taskbar and going to "Utilities" -> "Additional programs and features..."
https://gyazo.com/e2d77e20209ce646d4008edca0ef854a
Then click next, click the checkbox of "RIFE Interpolation engine" then click next again.
https://gyazo.com/6eb9f3ce78489d34e70639b47747b252
Once it gets downloaded you should be able to select that option.
Overall it should interpolate much better than "Automatic" mode, but it's more performance hungry.

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194 Reply by flowreen91

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dawkinscm wrote:

For SVP I use Rife. I also use interpolation with some motion blur.

What i imagine when people enable interpolation from mpv config on top of the movie already being fully interpolated by RIFE:
https://gyazo.com/8ce62ce348609112c567448cb406a223

dawkinscm wrote:

I pretty much have a fixed mpv/SVP configuration for VR.

Please share your mpv.conf solution, other VR users might be interested.

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195 Reply by flowreen91

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oriento wrote:

When i tried rife 4.14 v2 (i just copied the onnx file)

To use the v2 versions you must not put them inside the v1 folder.
It should look something like this file structure:
The parent folder "C:\Program Files (x86)\SVP 4\rife\models\":
https://gyazo.com/5a4401fd17ff3d1f009120a5db754c2b
The v2 only folder:
"C:\Program Files (x86)\SVP 4\rife\models\rife_v2\"
https://gyazo.com/d7ec471252d535602bc4ece31bfaee27
The v1 only folder:
"C:\Program Files (x86)\SVP 4\rife\models\rife\"
https://gyazo.com/f2a125fec5f6a18e7e3eef28e1f85999
If done correctly, restart SVP and then you should be able to see selectable AI models with (v2) in their name like this:
https://gyazo.com/9d6d1360852e8e92f834425e69803cb0

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196 Reply by flowreen91

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dawkinscm wrote:

but it still has issues with horizontal slow pans.

If i'm using the mpv setting "video-sync=display-resample" this scene has massive stutters:
https://youtu.be/jZvFEtR8RH0?si=59TEOOJ … m&t=18
We should either use "video-sync=audio" like Blackfyre's configs or nothing at all.

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197 Reply by flowreen91

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Kadet89 wrote:

I'm going to buy a laptop with RTX40XX and plan to use it for RIFE.
What graphics would it take for these to work on the fly?

Testing on a RTX4080 mobile, trying only the fastest RIFE version which is 4.6 (v2) i'm getting following results for SVP with MPV without visible frame drops:
> 1080/24 -> 144 fps OK
> 1080/24 -> 240 fps OK if we resize to 0.75% of 1080p resolution by using resize -14400810
https://gyazo.com/dec005728711e6dd84f814390f505506

> 4k/24 -> 48 fps OK
> 4k/24 -> 60 fps OK if we resize to 0.75% of 4k resolution by using resize -28801620
https://gyazo.com/4e45b4401ca114cdad6f57921566223b

All other RIFE versions older/newer than 4.6 (v2) have higher GPU requirements.
Noticed no performance difference between a Dolby Vision HDR file and an average non HDR file.
Really curious if anyone around here can test the limits of a 4090. big_smile

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198 Reply by flowreen91

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Now that Nvidia launched the Nvidia App on latest update that turns SDR games into HDR:
https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/software/nvidia-app/
did people started playing around with the RTX HDR & RTX Dynamic Vibrance to watch their non-HDR videos with it ?
You can easily enable it on your video player by drag and dropping it in the NvTrueHDR app:
https://www.nexusmods.com/site/mods/781
https://i.ibb.co/8BZJvMT/Desktop-Screenshot.png

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199 Reply by flowreen91

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issusi wrote:

Change the last setting, "Duplicate frames removal" to "Do not remove" and try playing it.

I had a similar experience.

You're right! It significantly impacts the performance. I wonder why this option is even available, as it could easily confuse newcomers who might accidentally activate it.

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200 Reply by flowreen91

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fabian5003 wrote:

I don't know what to do here.

Fabian try to play around with the resize setting until it works for your system:
https://gyazo.com/d2a3529fe06e8d5de601c7e64f99ca4e
https://www.svp-team.com/wiki/Manual:All_settings
And please tell us at what value it plays smoothly for u

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