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Chainik wrote:

there's no "path" in the user variables section on your screenshot, which is kinda strange

are you sure it's not created after running 'set env. variables for vapoursynth'? hmm maybe you deleted it later?
anyway you can add it manually

I'm not sure what you mean, as I said earlier, I have limited software engineering abilities, I'm just trying to put the right words in the right boxes to get Smooth Video Project application to work.  If you need more error logs or screenshots to troubleshoot the problem, I'm right here to to that, but I can't guess what steps to take to solve the issue.  Please just give me a step by step procedure to get this done, such as "copy and past this line line exactly and put it in this box," etc.  That's about all I'm capable of doing here.  Thanks.

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Chainik wrote:

don't you see that mpv64 folder is not here?


As I've mentioned before I'm not highly technically inclined in software, mostly I just try to follow the instructions.  In SVP/Utilities, I clicked the "Set environmental variables for Vapoursynth.." and I even went into "edit environmental variables" to ensure it was set correctly per the instructions on the SVP website (see Screenshot (45) above).  Did I do this correctly?  What am I missing here?  What do I need to do now?

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Chainik wrote:

win+R, cmd, 'echo %PATH%'

you said "checked that the PATH was pointing to SVP/MPV" BUT all I can see now tells that the path ISN'T in the PATH

Ok, I've attached a screenshot.  Thanks for helping me troubleshoot this..

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Chainik wrote:

and the log still tells "Main: PATH doesn't contain mpv64 folder, Vapoursynth Filter and libmpv players may not work"
run cmd, exec 'echo %PATH%'

when you double click "vapoursynth filter" in MPC-HC's "External filters" list - what happens?

I'm not exactly sure what you are asking, but this is my best guess.  The first screenshot is what I get when I double-click on the Vapoursynth filter in MPC-HC.  The second screenshot is when I doubleclick on the AviSynth filter.

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The first log I'm uploading (SVP native mpv) is from where I right click the SVP icon in the system tray and scroll up to "Open file via mpv..."  I click that, it opens up a window to choose a video file to play, I click on a video, the video starts, then pauses a couple of seconds, and then completely disappears.  That's it.

The second log (MPC Vapoursynth warning) is from when I open a video in MPC-HC.  The log I'm uploading though, may be one where the AviSynth filter is activated.  When I apply "prefer" to the Vapoursynth filter to MPC-HC the player simply crashes instantly and gives the error message in the "MPC-HC crash" screenshot I uploaded in the last post.  If you want me to try something else, let me know.

EDIT:  I forgot to attach the "MPC-HC crash" screenshot so I just added it.

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Chainik wrote:

> SVP works with MPC-HC but when I try to engage the RIFE engine, I get a warning sign in the lower right of the screen that says, "RIFE only works via Vapoursynth!"

this means RIFE/TensorRT works only via Vapoursynth Filter set in MPC-HC. Not via Avisynth Filter. Go to View -> Options -> External filters, uncheck Avisynth Filter, check Vapoursynth Filter.

> As far as my mpv not being from the SVP bundle, I'm not sure what to do about that.

choose mpv bundled with SVP as described there - https://www.svp-team.com/wiki/SVP:SMPlayer

Here's the last screenshot mentioned.

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Chainik wrote:

> SVP works with MPC-HC but when I try to engage the RIFE engine, I get a warning sign in the lower right of the screen that says, "RIFE only works via Vapoursynth!"

this means RIFE/TensorRT works only via Vapoursynth Filter set in MPC-HC. Not via Avisynth Filter. Go to View -> Options -> External filters, uncheck Avisynth Filter, check Vapoursynth Filter.

> As far as my mpv not being from the SVP bundle, I'm not sure what to do about that.

choose mpv bundled with SVP as described there - https://www.svp-team.com/wiki/SVP:SMPlayer


Thanks for responding Chainik.  I have already tried everything you describe above.  I've attached screenshots of how I set the Vapoursynth filter (see Vapoursynth filter) and how the entire media player crashes after I did that (see MPC-HC crash).

As far a mpv bundled with SVP for SMPlayer, I've aready done that as well, to no avail.  (See attached screenshots 43 and 44).  Also, I've attached a screenshot showing that I've set the PATHs correctly in environmental variables (see screenshot 45).

If you read some of my posts from years ago I had problems with SVP not working with SMPlayer, but for the better part of a year or two, it's been working fine.  I have no idea what happened.  I changed nothing, and one day I woke up, fired up SMPlayer, and it stopped working.  I don't think the problem is with SMPlayer though, I think the problem is with mpv, because I can't even get the SVP internal mpv player to play a video, the video starts, pauses, and then disappears.  The standard fixes don't help, please don't say, just click the "set environmental variables for vapoursynth" in Utilities.  I'm way past that.  As I said, the whole thing was working for a year+  I'm not just setting this up for the first time.  What boggles my mind, though, is that doing a compete uninstall of SMplayer and SVP and then a reinstall still doesn't work.  If I were an SVP developer, I certainly would be intrigued and think of this as a challenge.  Please do and help.

I think the base and most important central clues to this mystery boil down to 1) The fact that I can't get a video to play through SVP's native mpv player and 2) the "RIFE only works via Vapoursynth!" error message in MPC-HC.  It would seem to me that the problem her is somehow focused on Vapoursynth.  But I'm not the developer of SVP, so I yield to you.

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flowreen91 wrote:

Install ChatGPT locally and tell it to play a video with SMplayer and fix any errors found.


I was unable to have the AI run a program off my computer.  I fed it the error log, though, and this is what I got:

The error causing the failure is right here:

07:39:30.419 [E]: Playback [2aabad7a]: AVS - Crop: YUV image can only be cropped by Mod 2 (right side).\n(C:\Users\cmsre\AppData\Roaming\SVP4\scripts\2aabad7a.avs, line 66)

The Cause
You are playing a video with an odd-numbered width/height dimension (850x480), and when SVP attempts to crop the frame for 3D/Side-by-Side processing, the resulting resolution violates YUV color format requirements. Standard 4:2:0 YUV video formats require dimensions and cropping coordinates to be even numbers (Mod 2). Because 850 divided in half yields an odd dimension or an uneven split, AviSynth throws a crop error.

How to Fix It
Disable Auto-Crop for Odd-Resolution Files: In your SVP 4 settings under Applications or Video profiles, look for the cropping options and disable automatic black-border cropping for videos with non-standard or odd resolutions.

Re-encode the Video: Alternatively, resize or pad the source video beforehand so that both dimensions are cleanly divisible by 2 (or 4/16 for best compatibility with motion interpolation).


Unfortunately, this "fix" didn't work either.  I've attached a new error log, please some developer look at this so I can use the product again..

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Still waiting on some sort of resolution to the issue discussed above.  I'm unable to use the product until some movement is made.  If you need me to run some more error reports or something I'm happy to do that but the radio silence here is deafening.  Somehow Vapoursynth is not working, I think that may be the common issue with MPV player not working either standalone or with SMPlayer and with the error message I get with MPC-HC. 

I asket ChatGPT how I could install Vapoursynth myself to perhaps solve the problem and Chat said NOT to do this because it could interfere with the built-in path configuration etc., that SVP uses.  Chat said to have the SVP "development team" instruct me on how to correct their product.  That's what I'm trying to do here and am unsure what the problem is.  If there is no solution to the problem then please at least respond as so instead of just ignoring the issue.

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MAG79 wrote:

Try this:
1. Playback file using SVP menu: Open file via mpv...
if it can't help
2. Rewrite environment variables using SVP menu: Utilities > Set environment variables for Vapoursynth...

---
Your mpv is not from SVP bundle.
SVP's mpv: ...VideoPlayer: mpv v0.41.0-dirty /via 'C:\Users\Andrey\AppData\Local\Temp/mpvSockets/13420'
Your mpv: ...VideoPlayer: mpv v0.37.0-522-ga56d8ff1 /via 'C:/Users/cmsre/AppData/Local/Temp/smplayer-mpv-39e0'

---
And this warning:

[W]: Playback [cd926636]: Frame server (64-bit) NOT FOUND

It is not normal.


Thank you for responding to my quandry but I'm not sure what to do with it..  Before I even started this thread I tried opening a file via the SVP manager directly and I mentioned above that not only did I "set environment variables for Vapoursynth" within SVP manager I also manually went into "edit environmental varaiables" and made sure the path was there.  I even added the additional PYTHONPATH variable that was suggested in this article on your website:  https://www.svp-team.com/wiki/File:Vs-portable-env.png

Again, nothing has worked.  As far as my mpv not being from the SVP bundle, I'm not sure what to do about that.  Plus, what about the vapoursynth error I mentioned above happening in MPC-HC?  I'm not hugely technically inclined.  It would be nice to get a step by step process to get this to work again, even starting from scratch, which again I also have tried.  How could it not work going from a completely fresh install?!

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More info that might help:  SVP works with MPC-HC but when I try to engage the RIFE engine, I get a warning sign in the lower right of the screen that says, "RIFE only works via Vapoursynth!"

Does this mean that Vapoursynth isn't installed or isn't working?  I thought Vapoursynth was included with the SVP installation package?

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Update:  Did a complete uninstall of SVP and SMPlayer.  Reinstalled SVP only to see if I could get MPV player to work isolated from SMPlayer.  Did a full install, checked mpv player mpv shared library boxes, etc. etc., set the environmental variables, checked that the PATH was pointing to SVP/MPV and it still doesn't work.  The video starts, pauses as it usually does initially, and instead of the little logo that comes up in the lower left of the screen that indicates SVP is working, the video just disappears.  How could this happen?  I did a completely fresh install.  Again, it works fine with MPC-HC player.  AI chat says it must have something to do with vapoursynth but I don't know what that is or how to fix it... 

Chainik???  Anyone?

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Here's another piece of info that might help.  ChatGPT suggested opening the mpv player directly from the SVP folder and then dragging a video in there to see if t worked.  An it didn't.  It just paused and crashed.  Now this is interesting because SVP actually works with MPC-HC.  So perhaps it is something with MVP player itself.  It's confusing becuase it worked for a long time and I changed nothing.  Now I can't get it to work at all.

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I had the setup working great for a while and just today it stopped working again.  Has something changed over the past few days?

Typically, I'll open a video in SMplayer using the optional MPV engine and it works fine, now when I do it the player crashes and I get an error report that reads, "MPV has finished unexpectedly.  More info in the log."  Can someone help?  I've uploaded the logs.

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By "not working" I mean that the two full-SBS left/right videos are merging when I go into stereoscopic mode but they are not filling up the screen.  The top quarter of the screen is a big black bar and the bottom quarter of the screen is a big black bar.  Plus, the image is stretched horizontally by 2x.  It basically looks like the photo you posted above only the two images are merged and stretched horizontally.  This only happens with full-SBS videos like the one you posted above.  Half-SBS videos work just fine.  They fill the entire screen and don't stretch the image horizontally.

There is what they call a "Stereo-3D filter" in the video options menu of SMPlayer where I can change the video from full-SBS to half-SBS and get it to play like that.  But the idea is to not lose half the horizontal resolution in the process.  The reason I bought a 4K monitor is so I wouldn't have to do that.  The only other options in the "Stereo-3D filter" section are to convert it to anaglyph or interleaved, which obviously isn't going to help me.

I'm assuming that there are members here that play full-SBS videos using SVP on there laptops or desktops using either glasses or a glasses-free 3D monitor.  What would really help is if someone just told me what player they are using and how they have it set up.  Maybe nobody is or they are just playing half-SBS videos.  It would be nice to know.

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Hi, me again smile.  I'm back because I never got an answer to my question, "Why I cannot get full-SBS or top-bottom to work with SVP?"  A kind member of the forum was kind enough to respond to my question, but it did not answer my question.  It would be great if an SVP developer, such as CHAINIK maybe, could respond with a word or two. 

I have an Acer 4K spatiallabs laptop that can play "glasses-free" stereoscopic videos in full HD 1080p resolution.  They have their own, build-in SpatialLabs media player that can play all formats, half-SBS, full-SBS, top-bottom, etc.  So it CAN be done.  With SVP, all I can get to work is half-SBS.  I'm seeking an explanation for this or, better yet, a fix.  Is this an issue with SVP, or is it an issue with the "hosting" media player I am using, which is SMplayer which uses an MPV engine?  That is all I am looking for.

Is there a way to configure SVP to play full-SBS and/or Top-Bottom on SMplayer?  If not, can I configure it to work on some other media player?  Or am I stuck just using SVP to play half-SBS videos?  If that's the case that's fine, but I would like to hear it sraight from a developer, such as CHAINIK, instead of someone who is just guessing.  Thanks.

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dawkinscm wrote:
jimdogma7 wrote:

I have an Acer SpatialLabs 15 glasses-free 3D stereoscopic laptop with 3840x1080 resolution.  I can get videos encoded in HALF-SBS to work just fine.  However, no go for full-SBS.  What happens is that the video image is "windowed" meaning that it only fills up a portion of the screen, such that there are big black bars on the top and bottom of the image and sometimes on the sides.  Plus the image is stretched out horizontally.  I usually use the SMplayer media player which uses the MPV engine.  However, I also have the same problem in MPC-BE.

I know the laptop can play full-SBS videos because there's a built in "SpatialLabs player" that can play them just fine.  The player has other problems, though, such as you can't slow down the playback.  Therefore, I prefer to use SMplayer with SVP but can' seem to find why I can't make it work.

SVP has nothing to do with how your player presents a 3D image. That's purely down to your player and settings. However it sounds like what you are seeing is a 3840x1080 resolution image on the screen because that's exactly how it looks when presented properly. A thin strip going horizontally across the center of the screen with the top and bottom of the screen blank like the image below.

Ok, maybe I should have phrased my question differently and asked, "HOW can I get a full SBS video to play on my glasses-free 3D laptop?"  Oh, and by the way, I made a mistake-- the resloution of the monitor is a full 4K 3840x2160 resolution, if that makes a difference.

As far as media players, I've tried just about all of them, potplayer, KM player, etc., etc.  With the exception of the built-in "SpatialLabs player" the only one I can find that will play a Full SBS video on the laptop is Stereoscopic player, but that player has other problems.  For one, I don't think it's supported anymore and isn't undergoing ongoing development.  Two, it doesn't support SVP.  Three, and most importantly, it doesn't have an option to speed up and slow down video playback.  This is why I use SVP, so I can slow down videos and still have smooth playback.  I'm not an expert in these matters so if someone knows of a specific player that works with SVP and can play full SBS videos or can just help me with a solution in general, that would be great.

P.S.  Again, the built-in SpatialLabs player has an option to play 1) 2D-3D conversion (on the fly), 2) half-SBS, 3) full-SBS, and 4) Over-under.  So the monitor can seemingly play ALL formats available within the player.  However, the 3D software package also includes another feature called SpatialLabs "GO" where you can play any video on the screen in stereoscopic 3D as long as you can get the video into fullscreen mode (e.g. a YouTube video).  From here, you have an option to do one of two things, 1) if the video you're watching is in 2D, you can click a button that will convert it into 3D "on the fly," 2) if you are watching a side-by-side movie, as in the one dawkinscm posted above, there is a button you can click that will merge the side-by-side images into a 3D image.  There's not an option that will merge a top-down or over-under video, which seems odd.  So I'm not sure if this may be part of the problem or not.  Again, I'm not an expert.

I have an Acer SpatialLabs 15 glasses-free 3D stereoscopic laptop with 3840x1080 resolution.  I can get videos encoded in HALF-SBS to work just fine.  However, no go for full-SBS.  What happens is that the video image is "windowed" meaning that it only fills up a portion of the screen, such that there are big black bars on the top and bottom of the image and sometimes on the sides.  Plus the image is stretched out horizontally.  I usually use the SMplayer media player which uses the MPV engine.  However, I also have the same problem in MPC-BE.

I know the laptop can play full-SBS videos because there's a built in "SpatialLabs player" that can play them just fine.  The player has other problems, though, such as you can't slow down the playback.  Therefore, I prefer to use SMplayer with SVP but can' seem to find why I can't make it work.

Chainik wrote:

please update now

Problem solved.  Looks great.  Thanks!

Chainik wrote:

menu - Outer lighting - Fix 3D aspect ratio only

Thanks.  I did try that but the result is exactly the same as if you check "fill black bars."  The "outer lighting" effect is still enabled.  Interestingly, the effect is only present on the left image of the two SBS images.  However, when the images are blended it's very apparent.

Hitting the "disable" button doesn't work either since it alters the aspect ratio rendering the stereoscopic fusion unwatchable.

Hitting the "glow lights" button is the worst of all as you get the aspect ratio change along with the outer lighting still enabled.

I have started watching 3D side-by-side videos in SMPlayer which uses the MPV engine.  The videos need to be "half SBS" in order to work.  If I have SVP enabled it seems to be able to detect that it is an SBS video because next to the video profile it adds a " + 3D SBS."  So that's nice and the aspect ratio lines up nicely to blend the images.  The problem is that for some reason it automatically adds an "outer lighting" effect to the video present in the outer black bar regions which I do not want.  I can't figure out how to get rid of it without messing up the aligment of the images which ruin the stereoscopic 3D effect.

For example, the only thing that works is to have the "fill black bars" box checked when I go into "outer lighting-light patterns-manage patterns" window.  If this box is checked, though, you have to deal with the "outer light" patterns.  I've adjusted the dials to get the smallest effect possible, but there is still a "rim" of light at the edge of the scene that is distracting.  I just want it gone altogether.

If I check the option I really want, "no outer lighting," it completely changes the aspect ratio and the steroscopic images no longer line up properly.

Is there a fix for this?

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Chainik wrote:

Vapoursynth IS already "installed" - in a _portable_ version inside SVP's install directory. If you run mpv.exe from the same directory, everything is fine.
But if you want to use Vapoursynth in 3rd-party players, you have to add it to system's PATH <---- this _can_ possibly "break" other apps using Python because of Python versions conflict.

Thanks.  My central question though is whether adding Vapoursynth to the PATH will solve my problem?  The problem I'm trying to fix is that "standalone" MPV and SMplayer do not work AT ALL right now, while MPC-HC will only run the "automatic (60fps) profile.  If adding Vapoursynth to the PATH is unlikely to fix this problem I'd rather not take the risk to "add it to the path."

More directly, forget about Vaporsynth altogether and let me simply ask, "what could be causing the standalone versions of MPV and SMplayer not to work."  MPV just ignores SVP altogether and SMplayer will simply shut down after a second or two if SVP is enabled and SMplayer is using the MPV engine.  If SMplayer is using the "Mplayer" engine the video will run but will ignore SVP.

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I just downloaded SVP on a new laptop I bought and there are several issues I can't seem to fix. 

(1) I can get the RIFE engine to work with MPV if I open a video WITHIN the SVP control panel.  However, if I open a video from within MPV itself, it doesn't work.

(2) My go-to media player is SMplayer which uses the MPV "engine" to play videos.  Again, opening a video within SM player doesn't work.

Mind you, I have two other laptops with SVP installed and everything in (1) and (2) above works on those two laptops, so I'm perplexed.

Also, (3) Only the Automatic (60 fps) profile works on MPC-HC, there's a message that comes up that says if you want to run RIFE you need to install Vapoursynth.  Is that what my problem is here for all of these issues.  I'm hesitant to install vaporsynth because it blocked my usage of some Python related apps, such as Jupyter notebooks, etc., on my other two laptops in the past.

That said, I'm really confused as to why this is a problem on my new laptop and not on the other two..

That did the trick, thanks.

Works with Vulkan but when I put on TensorRT a command window pops up and freezes the video.  Any suggestions?  If not, where can I find a previous version to download?