New RIFE filter - 3x faster AI interpolation possible in SVP!!! (Page 103 of 103)

dawkinscm wrote:

AutumQueen92 wrote:

I used D3D11 since some .mkv won't play without it.
Did you enable GPU acceleration? Not using it was one of the main reason i get frame drops.
Also had to use SVP to downscale 1080p > 720p otherwise it stutters more on my 4060ti

Edit: I was interpolating to 120hz, so the downscale wouldn't have been necessary. No regrets anyway, I see no difference. Nvidia super resolution will upscale it in fullscreen

Although I made a mistake. Rhe original question suggests you may end up being on long term support explaining the very basics until a lot more reading has been done by the OP.

I don't need your condescending and unhelpful tripe anywhere near my posts.

Because of my performance difficulties that I CANNOT FIGURE OUT, which is driving me nuts, I will need to pick between madVR HDR (vs. an alternative) or SVP RIFE (vs. SVP standard). How noticeable is the improvement of RIFE over the standard algorithm? Is it discernable in a blind test?

dawkinscm wrote:

osudahiuhsdfg wrote:

Because of my performance difficulties that I CANNOT FIGURE OUT, which is driving me nuts, I will need to pick between madVR HDR (vs. an alternative) or SVP RIFE (vs. SVP standard). How noticeable is the improvement of RIFE over the standard algorithm? Is it discernable in a blind test?

The answer is it depends. Rife makes it easier to produce better looking results. Turn on RIFE, load the engine -> get a decent result. So technically it might be better than "a" standard algorithm. But  unless you are mainly watching Anime which is what it is designed for, it produces way too many artifacts for live content. SVP (with work and testing) can produce the same results, especially at  high frame rates like 120Hz and above. But without the large number of artifacts. Right now, from all my movies, I have maybe 2 artifacts that can only be seen on a very large screen. With RIFE I had that many artifacts or more, "per movie" that can be seen on almost any size screen.

Yes I did find RIFE to have too many problems in movies for sure, so sticking to standard algorithm seems like a good call! Still pissed I can't get RIFE to work though. I hope it's a weird glitch and not a bad GPU problem.

dawkinscm wrote:

osudahiuhsdfg wrote:

Yes I did find RIFE to have too many problems in movies for sure, so sticking to standard algorithm seems like a good call! Still pissed I can't get RIFE to work though. I hope it's a weird glitch and not a bad GPU problem.

SVP is better than RIFE so I wouldn't worry about it.

Are you guys saying SVP Automatic is better than SVP RIFE or that the SVP implementation of RIFE is better than the stand-alone RIFE?

dawkinscm wrote:

I didn't say SVP "Automatic" is better. I said "SVP" is better. RIFE and "Automatic" are just configuration profiles with two levels of customisation. Level 1 customisation is creating a new profile by making a copy of an existing one then manually changing the individual settings. Level 2 customisation uses"overrides" to change the default values of  low-level internal SVP settings. When time is taken to test and set these attributes correctly, you end up with smooth RIFE-like motion with far fewer artifacts. This is what that makes SVP profiles more flexible than RIFE and why you "can" end up with better results than RIFE.

Much of the information needed is in the SVP manual, but some more esoteric information about the overrides is spread among this forum's posts.

Actually RIFE and Automatic use completely different interpolation methods. Anyway, I have a customized RIFE profile too, but wondering what exact settings you have modified on your profile.

Welp, I'm stuck with 60 Hz for now, so your ideas are welcome. Maybe we can take this into the DMs.

Xenocyde wrote:

Welp, I'm stuck with 60 Hz for now, so your ideas are welcome. Maybe we can take this into the DMs.

Sorry I've just realized. You will need to enable Artifacts masking. My masking settings are in the overrides. I've DM'd them to you. Apologies again.

Xenocyde wrote:

Welp, I'm stuck with 60 Hz for now, so your ideas are welcome. Maybe we can take this into the DMs.

Yes we can do that. Just be aware that because I'm watching on a very large screen, I not only see micro-stutters, I see (what I call) nano-stutters. So as I've said before, I think my overrides are overkill for most people. But anyway, below is a screenshot my basic SVP config without any overrides.  You will need a decent Nvidia GPU if used with the overrides. I will DM them to you if you wish.

I'd also love to see the overrides, because the settings you just posted are already working extremely well here (120 frames per second, and the 4070 GPU is 30-40% max). The few artifacts can certainly still be "masked."

dawkinscm wrote:

abraxas wrote:

I'd also love to see the overrides, because the settings you just posted are already working extremely well here (120 frames per second, and the 4070 GPU is 30-40% max). The few artifacts can certainly still be "masked."

I've had a few people PM me for them and I sent them with notes.  I'm very happy that the basic settings are working well for you and it's probably all you need. With my current settings including overrides the 1% frame pacing average is around 8.4ms over wifi.  The combination 4k content on a very large screen being streamed over wifi makes even the smallest jitters more obvious which is why I monitor even the 1% averages. For most people the overrides are very overkill and no one in their right mind is monitoring frame pacing for watching movies lol. But if there is some traction for me to post them then I will.

+1 vote for you to post them, or PM them to me if you'd rather. I originally bought SVP to play with RIFE but after experimenting and reading some more I came across your basic settings and was much happier with the results. I'm using a 9700X and a 3080 Ti and have some good headroom to do 120 fps, but I've also realized the importance of keeping frametimes from getting out of hand.