New RIFE filter - 3x faster AI interpolation possible in SVP!!! (Page 99 of 100)

I hope so because while RIFE is still the smoothest the few remaining artifacts were horrible. In my testing I was able to remove every RIFE 25/26 artifact from all my test scenes using SVP. But if the new 26 heavy can remove those artifacts too then I'm there. I'm still impressed with what SVP can achieve though and if the new 26 heavy isn't that much better then I have no issue using SVP with LSFG

Just as a followup to yesterdays post. The settings above will get you similar to RIFE smoothness for fast action pans, but not slow pans. So I modified player tolerances and changed to Uniform Frames Interpolation mode. NOF motion grid at 16 px works well enough for everything except Man of Steel which needs either 24 px minimum or  Strongest Artifacts masking.

You have to understand that when watching on a very large screen, every small hiccup is seen. Every single one. The settings I posted give me smooth fast motion without artifacts (with the exception Man of Steel) so YMMV.  Both SVP (no Rife) and LSFG  are great for fast action but both need extra configuration to reduce or remove artifacts. SVP (no Rife) for slow pans needs even more advanced configuration. I just realized that I haven't tested LSFG for slow pans yet.

RIFE 26 Heavy is not a new update, just a correction of the existing RIFE 26 Large onnx file. So while SVP+Rife is the best and smoothest for both fast action and slow pans, there are no more RIFE engine updates on the way unless the original author changes his mind. SVP+RIFE is the best but with too many artifacts. That just leaves SVP Pro and LSFG.

2m interpolation works great for fast motion as most settings do, but for slow pans not so much. I did say indicate this as a good foundation but not the end product. Which is why I followed up my original post with the settings I now use. But these might be a little hard on mid-tier and lower GPUs. You might be right about NVOF because it wasn't great on my 4080.

I dont use HAGS at all, because realtime and transcoding performance getting worse (IF you tell about Hardware GPU allocation)

These are my new best settings which are very close to RIFE for fast motion clarity and RIFE/LSFG for slow pans but without the horrible vertical motion artifacts.  The kind of artifacts and tiny micro-stutters that are visible in VR probably won't be visible on a normal TV. So if your GPU can handle NVOF, then I wouldn't be surprised if motion with these new settings look as good and works as well as RIFE v26-Heavy for some of you.

BTW With these settings I can run up to 240fps on a high end 50 series card although the picture quality suffers with too many fake frames. So maybe 120fps on a 5070ti or 4080? I would be interested in hearing any feedback on this with different GPUs I recommend Motion vectors grid: 16 px

Good Luck and Have Fun!

I have a question that's been on my mind.
If the RIFE v2 models use fewer GPU resources and produce better visual quality than the v1 models, why does the v1 version even exist?
Wouldn't it make more sense for developers to just release v2 and deprecate v1 entirely?

Wait, what?! I always assumed v2 was strictly better than v1. Was I completely wrong?

"v2" naming is misleading... it's not like "generation 2 models" vs. "generation 1 models", it's only about small memory management optimization, which even doesn't work always
so, "v1" is stable, and "v2" if you feel like you want to dig into all this stuff...

You're doing something wrong. But it doesn't matter because it's not an upgrade. 26 Heavy has been out for around a year, this is just a fix for some conversion errors. It is better than before but still has artifacts.

I'm a fairly new user and trying to learn. Thank you for the reply. I use SVP for transcoding videos permanently I will revisit from time to time. I also use SVP processing in real time for watch and delete video. I've been using 4.25 and noticed the link for 4.26 heavy. Although 4.26 heavy is old, the site shows it was upgraded just a few days ago and thought I'd give it a whirl and see if transcoding times lessoned without compromising quality and how real time processing compared. Taking your word for it, I'll just avoid it. Thanks for the heads-up.

I'm hoping you or anyone can help me concerning model management. I'm using W11 25H2 with an RTX 5090 and SVP Pro 4.7.0.302 fwiw. In the past, using earlier builds, I d/l models. I unzip them to C:\Program Files\SVP 4\rife\models. I play video in real time and .engine and .engine.cache build and store at C:\Program Files\SVP 4\rife\models\rife. I have 27 different models all accessible and working using TensorRT. Being a newbie, it took me a while to narrow my models down to 4.25. Is that THE general consensus model I should be using? I'm not seasoned enough to figure it out myself.

So, I wanted to add 4.26 heavy and did it as the previous 27 models except it was not selectable and did not appear using TensorRT like the others. At this point I think I'm doing something wrong. Many uninstalls and reinstalls later, I'm getting nowhere however I did finally figure something out but I know it isn't correct: I open 4.26 heavy. There's rife and rife v2 folders just like every other model. Inside those are rife_v4.26_heavy.onnx files - again similar to other models. I copy the 'v2' heavy.onnx file to C:\Program Files\SVP 4\rife\models\rife. Still it isn't accessible in SVP control panel. In fact, I notice no 'v2' .onnx files from other models have ever appeared either such as 4.25 heavy and not just the 4.26 heavy I'm struggling with.

I finally replaced rife_v4.26_heavy.onnx file from the 'rife_v2' folder with the rife_v4.26_heavy.onnx file from the 'rife' folder instead to C:\Program Files\SVP 4\rife\models\rife.  Now, this model and others appear, are selectable, apply, and work as intended afaict.  This can't be normal is it? Are there left over SVP registry settings corrupting new SVP installs?  I'd search after uninstalling but no idea what to edit if anything. Are there other W11 SVP related folders/files not uninstalling? Etc.

This leads me to culling my models. I don't need or want all of them anymore and would like to learn how to manage them. Before I screw things up more than I assume they are, I thought I'd ask here because I'm not familiar or know if an SVP built-in tool exists to add/remove models? I'm tempted to delete the models I don't want from C:\Program Files\SVP 4\rife\models.  Next I would delete related .engines and .engines.caches from C:\Program Files\SVP 4\rife\models\rife. Any other suggestions?

On a side note, these are my advanced transcode settings I've been using. Log shows no errors but do they look ok in your opinion and would you suggest edits?  I know I am missing something because some metadata displayed info from the original file is no longer present after transcoding it when examining the files with the MediaInfo app. I've seen many files by others using SVP that did retain and display the info. No idea how they do it?

H.265/HEVC/NVENC/HDR:

b=120000000
preset=p7
rc=cbr_hq  (sometimes I use vbr also)
cq=14
qmin=15
maxrate=75000000 (I change this value depending on bitrate and file size desired)
minrate=70000000 (I change this value depending on bitrate and file size desired)
bufsize=120000000
tier=high
color_primaries=bt2020 (with Try to recover HDR colors unchecked)
color_trc=smpte2084     (with Try to recover HDR colors unchecked)
colorspace=bt2020nc     (with Try to recover HDR colors unchecked)
spatial_aq=1
aq-strength=12
temporal_aq=1
bf=3
g=300
refs=5
level=5.2 (using 4k chain now and will use 6.1 for 8k)

Hoping for any and all insight from the community which is always appreciated.