1,276 Reply by RickyAstle98 (edited by RickyAstle98 05-03-2024 15:18:33)

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Re: New RIFE filter - 3x faster AI interpolation possible in SVP!!!

dawkinscm wrote:
aloola wrote:
dawkinscm wrote:

Isn't this a separate issue to the TensorRT bug you refer to?  I don't think the use of dynamic shapes reduces the memory footprint enough to help @oriento who is literally running out of memory. Using performance mode reduces the amount of memory being used. Lower number Rife models also use less memory. Maybe for a 20 series card a user should do both by using the SVP default Rife 4.9 which works almost as well as later Rife models but is less taxing on the GPU.

it's the same
performance boost off = dynamic shape
performance boost on = static shape

you can test it yourself with performance boost off + model v2 4.7+

Oh right, good to know. After all this time still learning new things. Thanks smile

Lets say about RTX per equivalent model performance >
RTX 2070 > v4.4
RTX 3070 > v4.9
RTX 4070 > v4.11

1,277 Reply by dawkinscm (edited by dawkinscm 05-03-2024 14:30:35)

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Re: New RIFE filter - 3x faster AI interpolation possible in SVP!!!

RickyAstle98 wrote:

Lets say about RTX per equivalent model performance >
RTX 2070 > v4.4
RTX 3070 > v4.9
RTX 4070 > v4.11

     RTX 4080 > 4.14 (lite) smile

1,278 Reply by RickyAstle98 (edited by RickyAstle98 05-03-2024 16:47:26)

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Re: New RIFE filter - 3x faster AI interpolation possible in SVP!!!

dawkinscm wrote:
RickyAstle98 wrote:

Lets say about RTX per equivalent model performance >
RTX 2070 > v4.4
RTX 3070 > v4.9
RTX 4070 > v4.11

     RTX 4080 > 4.14 (lite) smile

I have almost same perf with lite and standard so yeah youre goddamn right!
RTX 5090 > v4.20

1,279 Reply by framo

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flowreen91 wrote:

If done correctly, restart SVP and then you should be able to see selectable AI models with (v2) in their name like this:
https://gyazo.com/9d6d1360852e8e92f834425e69803cb0

im using ncnn/vulkan and theres no drop down menu for me, am i doing sthg wrong?
i downloaded the v4.14 model and named it "rife_v.4.14f" , put the name in the rife_trt_model section in application settings. how can i make sure it is using the correct model?

1,280 Reply by RickyAstle98 (edited by RickyAstle98 05-03-2024 15:38:31)

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Re: New RIFE filter - 3x faster AI interpolation possible in SVP!!!

framo wrote:
flowreen91 wrote:

If done correctly, restart SVP and then you should be able to see selectable AI models with (v2) in their name like this:
https://gyazo.com/9d6d1360852e8e92f834425e69803cb0

im using ncnn/vulkan and theres no drop down menu for me, am i doing sthg wrong?
i downloaded the v4.14 model and named it "rife_v.4.14f" , put the name in the rife_trt_model section in application settings. how can i make sure it is using the correct model?

Huh?

1,281 Reply by flowreen91 (edited by flowreen91 05-03-2024 23:08:06)

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Re: New RIFE filter - 3x faster AI interpolation possible in SVP!!!

framo wrote:

im using ncnn/vulkan and theres no drop down menu for me, am i doing sthg wrong?
i downloaded the v4.14 model

For non Nvidia users, they can't use the Nvidia Tensor RT RIFE .onnx model files from here:
https://github.com/AmusementClub/vs-mlrt/releases
But i think they can play around with other ncnn/vulkan versions by downloading them from here:
https://github.com/TNTwise/rife-ncnn-vu … g/20240218
and replacing these two files:
"C:\Program Files (x86)\SVP 4\rife\rife-v4\flownet.bin"
"C:\Program Files (x86)\SVP 4\rife\rife-v4\flownet.param"

1,282 Reply by aloola (edited by aloola 06-03-2024 04:40:19)

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Re: New RIFE filter - 3x faster AI interpolation possible in SVP!!!

framo wrote:
flowreen91 wrote:

If done correctly, restart SVP and then you should be able to see selectable AI models with (v2) in their name like this:
https://gyazo.com/9d6d1360852e8e92f834425e69803cb0

im using ncnn/vulkan and theres no drop down menu for me, am i doing sthg wrong?
i downloaded the v4.14 model and named it "rife_v.4.14f" , put the name in the rife_trt_model section in application settings. how can i make sure it is using the correct model?

Download the files here
https://github.com/styler00dollar/Vapou … ter/models

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/290709370600423424/1214794469782851644/image.png?ex=65fa6883&is=65e7f383&hm=ee42f5e828693a3931fce3d6c945f50a616acc78912ef7b5ef096da8c78268e4&

1,283 Reply by framo

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Re: New RIFE filter - 3x faster AI interpolation possible in SVP!!!

aloola wrote:

Download the files here
https://github.com/styler00dollar/Vapou … ter/models

ohhh thank you! i was putting the onnx filse in the rife/models/rife folder before, i guess that was wrong big_smile
do i even need to change the riufe_trt_model in application settings then?

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flowreen91 wrote:

Now that Nvidia launched the Nvidia App on latest update that turns SDR games into HDR:
https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/software/nvidia-app/
did people started playing around with the RTX HDR & RTX Dynamic Vibrance to watch their non-HDR videos with it ?
You can easily enable it on your video player by drag and dropping it in the NvTrueHDR app:
https://www.nexusmods.com/site/mods/781
https://i.ibb.co/8BZJvMT/Desktop-Screenshot.png

How did you get this working i dragged and dropped my mPC-hC exe into the nvtruehdr.exe and it said hdr on settings saved. but when i start the app and go to game filter nothing is shown for gameprofile!! like in your screenshot...

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reconhell wrote:
flowreen91 wrote:

Now that Nvidia launched the Nvidia App on latest update that turns SDR games into HDR:
https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/software/nvidia-app/
did people started playing around with the RTX HDR & RTX Dynamic Vibrance to watch their non-HDR videos with it ?
You can easily enable it on your video player by drag and dropping it in the NvTrueHDR app:
https://www.nexusmods.com/site/mods/781
https://i.ibb.co/8BZJvMT/Desktop-Screenshot.png

How did you get this working i dragged and dropped my mPC-hC exe into the nvtruehdr.exe and it said hdr on settings saved. but when i start the app and go to game filter nothing is shown for gameprofile!! like in your screenshot...

To get that menu, you have to use the new Nvidia app that's in beta. Doesn't work with multiple monitors btw. https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/software/nvidia-app/

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Re: New RIFE filter - 3x faster AI interpolation possible in SVP!!!

Ofcourse I know that. I had already said when I go to "game filter". How could I do that without the app?
Problem is the app is not recognised by the beta app for filter. after following instructions.

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reconhell wrote:

Problem is the app is not recognised by the beta app for filter. after following instructions.

Yes, the beta app is glitchy. Try restarting PC with only the HDR monitor connected.
Also make sure you have mpc hc at Manage 3D -> Programs settings added.
https://gyazo.com/40cc150b9b1775d1f506c8af0fddfa93
If still fails follow all steps from description tab from here https://www.nexusmods.com/site/mods/781
If still fails download TrueHDRTweaks from same link, put it in the mpc hc folder and forcefully set the settings that u want, without ever actually using the nvidia overlay.

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Re: New RIFE filter - 3x faster AI interpolation possible in SVP!!!

flowreen91 wrote:
reconhell wrote:

Problem is the app is not recognised by the beta app for filter. after following instructions.

Yes, the beta app is glitchy. Try restarting PC with only the HDR monitor connected.
Also make sure you have mpc hc at Manage 3D -> Programs settings added.
https://gyazo.com/40cc150b9b1775d1f506c8af0fddfa93
If still fails follow all steps from description tab from here https://www.nexusmods.com/site/mods/781
If still fails download TrueHDRTweaks from same link, put it in the mpc hc folder and forcefully set the settings that u want, without ever actually using the nvidia overlay.

I had followed all those steps already before you posting them, and it didn't seem to do anything still.
NVtruehdr doesn't seem to do anything.
Atleast.. it didnt work the entire day now it seems to work? (but i also put the .asi files next to mpc-hc, so not sure if it is that or nvtruehdr)

Btw. if I turn off RTX video HDR in MPC-videorenderer settings, it will stop working, is this normal behaviour? since the RTX video hdr is not the same as RTX HDR function... and i thought was suppose to function seperately..
turn it off in nvidia control panel also seems to make it stop.
But when it works i see the HUD in the top left of MPC-HC.

1,289 Reply by flowreen91 (edited by flowreen91 09-03-2024 07:58:27)

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Re: New RIFE filter - 3x faster AI interpolation possible in SVP!!!

reconhell wrote:

Btw. if I turn off RTX video HDR in MPC-videorenderer settings, it will stop working

Glad u fixed it. Don't know, please show an image of this setting.
The Nvidia Filters basically apply the selected shaders on top of your image. So if u would have an HDR video and u would accidentally leave RTX HDR ON at the same time, you will see a badly colored video. Disable RTX HDR when playing HDR source videos.

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flowreen91 wrote:
reconhell wrote:

Btw. if I turn off RTX video HDR in MPC-videorenderer settings, it will stop working

Glad u fixed it. Don't know, please show an image of this setting.
The Nvidia Filters basically apply the selected shaders on top of your image. So if u would have an HDR video and u would accidentally leave RTX HDR ON at the same time, you will see a badly colored video. Disable RTX HDR when playing HDR source videos.

Not sure what you mean because, the .asi mod HDR loader files, NEEDS the nvidia video hdr from control panel, aswell as RTX video hdr in mpc-hc option. Turn either of these off, and the .asi loader files won't work.
Or are you talking about NVtrueHDR.exe thing?

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Re: New RIFE filter - 3x faster AI interpolation possible in SVP!!!

Hi

I was sucessfull installing SVP with rife vulcan and/or TensorRT together with MPC-HC and MadVR.

HD-Videos get scaled (MadVR) and FI works awesome. Original 4.4 Version. No matter if I use Vaporsynth/TensorRT or AviSynth/Vulcan. Bot work fine.

BUT: for UHD Videos (HDR) I have massive frame drops. Around 1/4 of total frames get dropped. Turning MadVR ToneMapping off/on makes no difference in frame drops and only small difference in GPU load.


Settings/Hardware:
RTX4090
i5 13600
32gb DDR5

GPU around 70-85% depending on Vulkan/TensorRT
Tried "Match to screen" and "Video x2" (my projector can handle 48Hz; custom resolution set for that)
Followed this basic guide:
https://www.svp-team.com/wiki/SVP:MPC-HC
Then followed this one:
https://www.svp-team.com/wiki/RIFE_AI_interpolation

Since GPU is not overloaded and it works that nice for HD content I run out of ideas. Any input would be highly appreciated :-)

Regards

1,292 Reply by dawkinscm (edited by dawkinscm 11-03-2024 10:07:30)

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Re: New RIFE filter - 3x faster AI interpolation possible in SVP!!!

Rife v4.15 is out. It is a clear improvement over previous models for reducing double images in fast movement. I need to do some testing but I think it uses a little more GPU than previous models because even with v2 my GPU never drops below 100%. Packet drops sometimes happen when starting or when FF/REW but settles down quickly with no further drops during playback. No obvious regressions from previous tests.

1,293 Reply by Olombo

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Re: New RIFE filter - 3x faster AI interpolation possible in SVP!!!

Ok....I check transcoding. This works with x2 for up to 60fps. Also mpv player works fine with installed 4.14
Any Idea what could cause mpc to stutter but lets mpv work perfect?

1,294 Reply by oriento (edited by oriento 11-03-2024 20:00:45)

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Re: New RIFE filter - 3x faster AI interpolation possible in SVP!!!

dawkinscm wrote:

Rife v4.15 is out. It is a clear improvement over previous models for reducing double images in fast movement. I need to do some testing but I think it uses a little more GPU than previous models because even with v2 my GPU never drops below 100%. Packet drops sometimes happen when starting or when FF/REW but settles down quickly with no further drops during playback. No obvious regressions from previous tests.

where is it available ?

thank you smile

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oriento wrote:
dawkinscm wrote:

Rife v4.15 is out. It is a clear improvement over previous models for reducing double images in fast movement. I need to do some testing but I think it uses a little more GPU than previous models because even with v2 my GPU never drops below 100%. Packet drops sometimes happen when starting or when FF/REW but settles down quickly with no further drops during playback. No obvious regressions from previous tests.

where is it available ?

https://github.com/AmusementClub/vs-mlr … nal-models

1,296 Reply by aloola (edited by aloola 12-03-2024 03:00:42)

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Olombo wrote:

Ok....I check transcoding. This works with x2 for up to 60fps. Also mpv player works fine with installed 4.14
Any Idea what could cause mpc to stutter but lets mpv work perfect?

try to turn off the Hardware Decoder in LAV filter or change it to something not -copy.

in my case hardware decoder copy-back works badly with UHD+ videos, stuttering even without SVP/RIFE.



my benchmark RTX 4080

4kx2 HAGS ON
Output 8000 frames in 128.49 seconds (62.26 fps) 4.6
Output 8000 frames in 139.04 seconds (57.54 fps) 4.9
Output 8000 frames in 177.04 seconds (45.19 fps) 4.14
Output 8000 frames in 179.05 seconds (44.68 fps) 4.14 lite
Output 8000 frames in 181.29 seconds (44.13 fps) 4.15

1080@x5 HAGS OFF
Output 8000 frames in 50.77 seconds (157.59 fps) 4.15
Output 8000 frames in 50.25 seconds (159.21 fps) 4.14
Output 8000 frames in 37.24 seconds (214.82 fps) 4.9
Output 8000 frames in 32.78 seconds (244.02 fps) 4.6

*The benchmark is just for comparison performance between models, not for real-world video*

1,297 Reply by Olombo

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Re: New RIFE filter - 3x faster AI interpolation possible in SVP!!!

Changing the copy back has no effect. I recognized that also mpv has drops. I just had a mistake while testing (used 1080p file....works easy of course. Only UHD has frame drops).

So....2 different players both with frame drops. Which rife model I use makes no real difference. Any recommendation how to proceed?

1,298 Reply by aloola

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Re: New RIFE filter - 3x faster AI interpolation possible in SVP!!!

Olombo wrote:

Changing the copy back has no effect. I recognized that also mpv has drops. I just had a mistake while testing (used 1080p file....works easy of course. Only UHD has frame drops).

So....2 different players both with frame drops. Which rife model I use makes no real difference. Any recommendation how to proceed?

there are some options to boost the performance:
- turn off HAGS (in windows)
- pre-resize video resolution to lower res (in SVP menu)

1,299 Reply by Olombo

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Re: New RIFE filter - 3x faster AI interpolation possible in SVP!!!

HAGS improved the fps in transcoding. Around 50 now. Still no improvement in mpv/mpc.

As for some users 4kx2 work with zhe 4090 I do not want to pre-scale. Might there be some bandwith limit with my cpu/board? Most herr use AMD and I have a i5-13600....?

1,300 Reply by flowreen91 (edited by flowreen91 13-03-2024 09:25:21)

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Olombo wrote:

Still no improvement in mpv/mpc.

In a certain scenario on laptops, they might be run by default by the wrong GPU.
You can make sure they are correctly run by your 4090 by going to Windows -> Graphics Settings and selecting the correct GPU:
https://gyazo.com/0b3743c4a935c491ea4b4ffaae2f8580
For best RIFE performance according to @aloola's data, try to play around with Nvidia TensorRT and the 4.6 version:
https://gyazo.com/2a635348c44e379ccaca0520c0f3c6a2
First time i'm hearing that a 4090 is bottlenecked by an old CPU. xD