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Nintendo Maniac 64 wrote:

So uh, is there any chance that we might be able to update the SVP wiki with info regarding these magical anime-optimized settings?

In particular I still haven't a clue on how to use them myself. tongue

I'll give it a go, maybe put my settings on there, so far everything works great!

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dlr5668 wrote:
ArcticWolf_11 wrote:

Pastebin so that it doesn't fill up my post lol

http://pastebin.com/KG4FsHjx

Is it me or every setting line starts with // aka comment ?

Idk, I just pasted everything in my config file lol

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TayyabKhalid wrote:
ArcticWolf_11 wrote:
Nintendo Maniac 64 wrote:

The only other thing is to make sure that you're doing interpolation by an exact multiple, like 24fps @ x3 to 72fps rather than to 75fps.

Since you have a G-sync monitor, your monitor should automatically match its refresh rate to the interpolated frame rate and therefore you don't have to worry about matching and changing refresh rates and stuff - just make sure G-sync is working and you'll be fine!


Also, with Chainlink's settings, you could try to increase the settings for motion vectors precision, motion vectors grid, and processing of scene changes, but be wary as they may increase the artifacting to unacceptable as well.

Thanks for all the help! Is there a manual with a description of all the settings and what they do, if not will one be made soon?

Could you share with me yours "Override.js" instead? I dont know if I need to just copy and then paste, or do I need to do something more and its not that easy? In that case I would liked if you shared your copy of the mentioned file.

Sorry, was busy these past few days, here are my settings

Pastebin so that it doesn't fill up my post lol

http://pastebin.com/KG4FsHjx

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Nintendo Maniac 64 wrote:
ArcticWolf_11 wrote:

Thanks, your explanation of the settings really helped a lot. Is there anything else that I can do to get maximum smoothness, perhaps changing settings in the video player or MadVR and Reclock?

The only other thing is to make sure that you're doing interpolation by an exact multiple, like 24fps @ x3 to 72fps rather than to 75fps.

Since you have a G-sync monitor, your monitor should automatically match its refresh rate to the interpolated frame rate and therefore you don't have to worry about matching and changing refresh rates and stuff - just make sure G-sync is working and you'll be fine!


Also, with Chainlink's settings, you could try to increase the settings for motion vectors precision, motion vectors grid, and processing of scene changes, but be wary as they may increase the artifacting to unacceptable as well.

Thanks for all the help! Is there a manual with a description of all the settings and what they do, if not will one be made soon?

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TayyabKhalid wrote:
Nintendo Maniac 64 wrote:
kevingwn wrote:

super_params="{pel:1,scale:{up:0},gpu:1,full:true}"
analyse_params="{block:{w:32,h:32},main:{search:{coarse:{distance:-12,bad:{sad:2000}},distance:-8},levels:3},refine:[{search:{distance:-6}},{search:{distance:-4}}]}"
smoothfps_params="{rate:{num:5,den:2},algo:23,mask:{cover:80},scene:{mode:0}}"

I wouldn't be surprised if the OP hasn't a clue what settings that script corresponds to; heck, I don't even know!

How do I get around to using these script? Would very much appreciate it, if you shared the instructions.

You edit the override.js file and add them, make sure to take ownership of the file, if not just save the file to your desktop after editing and then copy and replace the old file in SVP 4/script/overrride.js

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kevingwn wrote:

> I too would appreciate it if you could list what these settings mean in the GUI.
> Wow, that looks great! Now how do I use this script? XD
I have the same settings as Chainik's post, and edit SVP 4/script/overrride.js

levels.full                = true;

analyse.main.levels            = 3;
analyse.main.search.distance        = -8;
analyse.main.search.coarse.distance    = -12;

analyse.refine[0]            = {search:{distance:-6}};
analyse.refine[1]            = {search:{distance:-4}};

YES thanks! I added these settings and they really help make things smoother and it lessened the squiggly lines!

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kevingwn wrote:

Currently the following settings are best for me,

super_params="{pel:1,scale:{up:0},gpu:1,full:true}"
analyse_params="{block:{w:32,h:32},main:{search:{coarse:{distance:-12,bad:{sad:2000}},distance:-8},levels:3},refine:[{search:{distance:-6}},{search:{distance:-4}}]}"
smoothfps_params="{rate:{num:5,den:2},algo:23,mask:{cover:80},scene:{mode:0}}"

Compare with other settings,
http://imgur.com/a/mjDjs

Wow, that looks great! Now how do I use this script? XD

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Nintendo Maniac 64 wrote:

These are very similar to the settings that I use for anime-like content, the only difference is that I use shader @ complicated, artifact masking @ disabled, and processing of scene changes @ repeat frame; I personally feel this gives fewer artifacts, but your mileage may vary.



ArcticWolf_11 wrote:

Thanks, those settings helped a little, I still see squiggly lines sometimes and a little bit of artifacting but otherwise it looks a little better now. Would you or anyone know if there is a full manual of the settings and what they do so I can try to figure out what settings works best for me to get maximum smoothness? Also is there a guide/manual on MPC and MadVR so I know what the different settings do?

Unfortunately there aren't really any guides that describe the end-result of each setting, and I've no clue about guides for MPC-HC and madVR (though with your G-sync monitor there's little benefit from changing MPC-HC's settings anyway).



Regarding SVP, with such a high-end PC you really should only need to fiddle with the SVP shader and motion vectors grid settings.

Thanks, your explanation of the settings really helped a lot. Is there anything else that I can do to make the video as smooth as possible with minimal artifacts/sqigglies?
I use SVP shader @ complicated for everything except videos that result in squigglies due to quickly-moving thin lines (for those videos I use SVP shader @ standard); an example video that causes this phenomenon would be the rain around 5 minutes in this video: https://youtu.be/tcWJFQsSKT8

I also normally just set Motion vectors grid to the maximum value possible that my PC can handle, but using particularly small values on high-res videos (like 8 px. on a 1080p video) may give displeasing artifacts.



Other than that, there are only 3 other settings your really should worry about (everything else can just be "maxed out" unless you're having performance issues), but these settings do not directly effect the motion interpolation - they are Artifact masking, Decrease grid step, and Processing of scene changes.

Processing of scene changes - when there is a large difference between two source video frames (such as a scene transition or a large object moving extremely fast across the screen), SVP will not even bother generating an interpolated frame and will instead repeat frame or blend adjacent frames.  I personally use "repeat" for anime-like content (particularly because characters are typically only animated at 12fps) but use "blend" for everything else.

Artifact masking takes the blended frame that would be the result of blend adjacent frames (though in this case it applies to every interpolated frame) and overlays it on top of the interpolated frame; the greater the setting, the more visible the blended frame is while the less visible the interpolated frame is.  I personally always leave this at disabled unless I'm watching cinematic-like content with someone that's not used to high frame rate video.

Decrease grid step can reduce interpolation artifacts, though I set it only to local refinement unless I have performance to spare because I find there to be little to no difference between "local" and global refinement yet "global" takes way more CPU-grunt than the "local".



On weaker PCs (5+ year old dual cores) and/or extremely high resolution videos (4k?), you may need to also fiddle with the motion vectors precision setting as this has a big effect on both CPU utilization and RAM consumption.  Also Frames interpolation mode @ 1m can have a big performance impact on particularly low-end PCs when doing anything other than "Movie x2" interpolation, and Frames interpolation mode @ 1.5m or even 2m can be good if you're more OCD about interpolation artifacts and don't mind the reduction in smoothness.

Thanks, your explanation of the settings really helped a lot. Is there anything else that I can do to get maximum smoothness, perhaps changing settings in the video player or MadVR and Reclock?

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Blackfyre wrote:

I recently posted this to someone else, try these settings and let me know what you think.

I use MPC + Madvr

I have the PRO version of SVP 4 and similar hardware to yours. 4790K @ 4.7Ghz & an MSI GTX 1070 Gaming X

I'm using a 1080p 43" Sony W800C TV as a monitor & I use it for both entertainment & gaming.

Here's my settings for perfect movie/series/anime viewing (literally for everything I use these settings), with these settings ARTIFACTS are minimal (barely noticeable in comparison to default settings). My Madvr settings are custom too, if you're interested I could share them as well. But you need SVP 4 Pro for you to be able to use these settings. The MSI Afterburner settings are there not because you should copy them, you shouldn't, every videocard overclocks differently, but it's just to confirm that I indeed do have a GTX 1070.

http://i.imgur.com/5f0fQGN.png

Thanks, those settings helped a little, I still see squiggly lines sometimes and a little bit of artifacting but otherwise it looks a little better now. Would you or anyone know if there is a full manual of the settings and what they do so I can try to figure out what settings works best for me to get maximum smoothness? Also is there a guide/manual on MPC and MadVR so I know what the different settings do?

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Nintendo Maniac 64 wrote:
ArcticWolf_11 wrote:

I'm using MPC and not MadVR, but if it will help, I will try it. Ill try to set it to an exact multiple then on my 144hz monitor and try complicated shaders, my i7 can handle it. Will report back with the results

-Edit: Nope not much of a change sad

What happens if you manually specify "Movie x3"?  Is it better, worse, or no difference? (I don't think it'll make any real difference, but I want to make sure before suggesting anything else).

Also, could you mention what your exact CPU model is?  (just saying "i7" doesn't really tell me much)


ArcticWolf_11 wrote:

also is it possible to get SVP to play at an exact 144 fps? As it says its playing at 143.856.

There are 4 solutions to this.

1. Use ReClock + MPC-HC 32bit
2. Use mpv and configure it accordingly
3. Make a custom resolution with a refresh rate of 143.856Hz (more info)
4. Use a monitor and GPU that supports either Adaptive Sync/FreeSync or G-sync

Technically there's a 5th solution in that you can manually speed up the audio waveform from 48000Hz to 48048Hz and the video frame rate from 23.976fps to 24.000fps, but unless you know how to already do this sort of thing then I seriously don't recommend trying to do it this way.

Thanks, I have an i7 4790k 5Ghz, 32gb ram, and a GTX 1080. Movie x2, x2 1/2, 3 and so on does not show any difference. I have just installed MadVR and ReClock and it got choppier and images when they move are squiggly, left everything on default settings. I do have a G-Sync monitor but how would I get it to work with MPC?

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I'm using MPC and not MadVR, but if it will help, I will try it. Ill try to set it to an exact multiple then on my 144hz monitor and try complicated shaders, my i7 can handle it. Will report back with the results

-Edit: Nope not much of a change sad also is it possible to get SVP to play at an exact 144 fps? As it says its playing at 143.856.

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Hi, just bought SVP 4 Pro in the hope of getting it to play smoother than the free version. Where should I start to figure out what settings I should chose and what I should pick? Right now I copied these settings but some scenes the picture is squiggly https://www.svp-team.com/wiki/Watching_anime Any help would be nice. Thanks!

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brucethemoose wrote:

Maybe turn down the quality slider a bit?

When SVP auto detected settings for my system (4670k, 7950) it was a bit too much for 1080p. If the SVP index is at 1, and CPU usage is below 80% or so, it shouldn't be a problem... But turn it down a bit just to see.


Also if you do get the Pro version, you should try mpv. As others will tell you, it's tricky to set up and has no GUI, but playback is significantly smoother than the default player for me.

My CPU usage is under 20% and its clocked at 5GHz so I doubt it but ill give it a try

EDIT: Nope, no difference sad

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MAG79 wrote:

Start from changing video renderer to EVR Custom with D3D Fullsreen option enabled:
MPC-HC - menu View - Options - Output

Thanks, that helped a little bit but I still see some tearing/skipping. I'm using a GTX 980 with the latest drivers and i'm using the default render that was automatically selected when I installed SVP.

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Nintendo Maniac 64 wrote:

You say "sometimes" it looks choppy - are you sure that your SVP performance index is not running under 1.0x in such cases?

Its stable at 1.0x and sometimes goes to 1.01x, its more choppy on older anime that isnt in 720 or 1080 but sometimes it skips a tiny bit on 720 and 1080. Is there a way to make the max 2.0x instead of 1? I have an i7 4790k and a GTX 980 so i'm sure it can handle it

MAG79 wrote:

You can also enable Tearing Test line and look at its movements. If must moves smooth without jumps at any places of video.
Jumps of Tearing Test line means you don't see ALL FRAMES produced by SVP. In that case you need to change/customize your renderer/graphics driver first as Chainik said. If it is your case then we will need to know your renderer (madVR or another) and your graphic card with driver version. You can send us bug report. We can read this info from logs attached to it.

Yeah the line flickers and so does the video at times, where would the setting be to change/customize it? My monitor is at 144hz and it has G-Sync if that matters

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ah okay, what adjustments would you recommend I try?

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Hi, I was wondering how I would make it play smoother at 144fps from 24fps. When I watch anime or any other video sometimes it would look really choppy when it plays. Would I be able to make it look as smooth as possible in the free version or would I have to get the pro version? Thanks! big_smile

Edit: Would it be possible to make it look as smooth as a really expensive tv at best buy or something?

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What is the difference between the paid and the free version? It says "Other cool features" what are those? Also will videos look smoother on the paid version than on the free version at 144Hz? Thanks!