Blackfyre wrote:

Deleting old comment, fixed the issue.

I tried the vs-mlrt you mentioned (the one from 2 days ago) and the only problem was not taking models from the v2 folders

instead build from the models/rife folder

I honestly dont remenber what I changed in the old vs-mlrt. Because I run into this problem before

Check if you have other Vapoursynth and/or Python installations somewhere. If so , deleted and use the one in the svp installer.

aloola wrote:
Drakko01 wrote:

If I use mpc-VR (RTX HDR + RTX SuperRes) with MPC-HC or MPC-BE I don't get the best experience, the quality is very good, but I have a kind of stutter in slow camera movements or certain close ups,  no in panning movements. This is not present when I use Madvr. Maybe i got some settings wrong in MpcVR dunno.
BTW I always talking of Realtime Playback just for clarify.

I think the lack of G-sync/freesync support causing this.
try the options video -> frame synch -> "Sync video to display" in MPC, it may fix the problem

Thanks for your recommendation, it makes some scenes a little better, but I still see some stuttering that is not present when using RIFe+MPCHC+MAdvr.

micha wrote:

Thank you!

- Which CPU are you using? I still have an 8700K installed, the 13900K is waiting to be installed…

- why are you using this AI model 4.15v2?

- what does Scene change threshold: 30% Custom?

- what source material did you use? 720p / 1080p?

Thanks and best regards
Micha

I Micha, sorry for my late response

- My cpu is a 13600k

- Why 4.15v2 for me its the best model so far

-The SCT % was discussed in the Re: New RIFE filter - 3x faster AI interpolation possible in SVP!! topic you can search for Scene change threshold 100

-My movies are mostly 4k and 1080 rips , but I use frc.frame.resize set to 19200800 then upscale with Madvr to 2560*1440

dawkinscm wrote:
Drakko01 wrote:
dawkinscm wrote:

1920x2160.

It's a odd resolution to use and also a odd screen resolution. Can you explain the reason for choosing that resolution in your rips?

I didn't choose it. This is the standard resolution for 3D blu-ray.

Oh, sure! I completely forgot about 3D movies, I haven't played one in years. I played them at the beginning of SVP on a 55-inch LG8500 and seeing 3D avatar at 60 fps was a true experience. Even with the artifacts of that time.

aloola wrote:

mpc-BE + mpc-VR (RTX HDR + RTX SuperRes) + SVP RIFE give you the best experience and easy to config.

If I use mpc-VR (RTX HDR + RTX SuperRes) with MPC-HC or MPC-BE I don't get the best experience, the quality is very good, but I have a kind of stutter in slow camera movements or certain close ups,  no in panning movements. This is not present when I use Madvr. Maybe i got some settings wrong in MpcVR dunno.
BTW I always talking of Realtime Playback just for clarify.

dawkinscm wrote:
Drakko01 wrote:
dawkinscm wrote:

Today I tried MPC+MadVR with a simpler config and it still couldn't handle my full resolution rips using Rife. However saying all that I'm also happy running my files reduced to FHD since it uses around 40% less GPU with Rife v4.15v2.

I've been using RIFE since it became available and I never thought it could improve this much. BTW which is the full resolution of your rips and wich resolution its your display

1920x2160.

It's a odd resolution to use and also a odd screen resolution. Can you explain the reason for choosing that resolution in your rips?

dawkinscm wrote:

Today I tried MPC+MadVR with a simpler config and it still couldn't handle my full resolution rips using Rife. However saying all that I'm also happy running my files reduced to FHD since it uses around 40% less GPU with Rife v4.15v2.

I've been using RIFE since it became available and I never thought it could improve this much. BTW which is the full resolution of your rips and wich resolution its your display

dawkinscm wrote:
Drakko01 wrote:
dawkinscm wrote:

Higher than FHD but definitely not 4k. At FHD I can run a little higher at 75fps.

BTW After more testing with the default TRT 8.5.1, Rife v4.16 lite and v4.15 lite are almost identical. Rife v4.15 is slightly better than both. I don't know about anyone else but for me, it looks like I should have stuck with the default TRT.

I am exactly at your numbers even using TRT 9.2.

I was always  curious why the devs never updated the TRT Version if there its a reason not to.

It's not stable. When you you are at my numbers with TRT 9.2, are you running large files that have 2x the vertical resolution of a FHD file at 72fps on v4.15?

Maybe i I didn't understood what resolution do you use, but you statement was a little vague...

Generally I play 4k sources downscale to 1920*800 by svp and upscale to 2560*1440 with madvr.

dawkinscm wrote:
RickyAstle98 wrote:
dawkinscm wrote:

Now that I'm back on TRT8.5.1 I am able to run Rife v4.15v2 at 72fps which uses about 75-90% GPU. The lite version uses about 60-80% GPU. For me I suppose that it goes without saying that:

4.15v2/72 > 4.15v2 lite/72 > 4.15v2/60 > 4.15v2/60 lite > everything else.

FHD or 4K?

Higher than FHD but definitely not 4k. At FHD I can run a little higher at 75fps.

BTW After more testing with the default TRT 8.5.1, Rife v4.16 lite and v4.15 lite are almost identical. Rife v4.15 is slightly better than both. I don't know about anyone else but for me, it looks like I should have stuck with the default TRT.

I am exactly at your numbers even using TRT 9.2.

I was always  curious why the devs never updated the TRT Version if there its a reason not to.

dawkinscm wrote:
RickyAstle98 wrote:
Insindro wrote:

In your opinions, which rife model is currently the smoothest?

4.4 smoothest (for me)

For me they are all about as smooth as each other but 4.15 and 4.15 lite have by far the least artefacts. 4.15 lite is the best all round.

Hi, for me its about the same as dawkinscm, best models so far 4.15 branch. I use the 4.15 V2 the only artefact left its tiny fast moving objects in some cases doubling the image

RickyAstle98 wrote:
dawkinscm wrote:
RickyAstle98 wrote:

This is how issue look like (video is predelayed for showcase purposes) >
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1tGmkW6 … ojEPp/view

I don't see anything even after slowing it down. What am I supposed to see?

Video is predelayed for showcase purposes, this means you might see the issue as it look like, not RIFE related! Look at the car, its going reverse and forwards, thats how it looks like with newer models for me, its not rendered video!
I cant post prerendered video only because its a realtime playback bug, plz understand me! Thats propably MPV player issue, different codecs - different behavior!

I understand exacly what you ment, do you give a video example to test where this happened to you

Mine its working whitout problems

https://i.ibb.co/SfxVbGz/Screenshot-2024-04-04-211618.png
MPC-HC x64
MPC Video-Renderer
- Request Super Resolution: for ≤ FullHD
- RTX Video HDR: On

External filters
- VapourSynth Filter: On and Prefer


SVP
RIFE AI engine
- Engine: NVIDIA TensorRT
- GPU threads: 3
- AI model: 4.15v2
- GPU device: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070
- Performance boost: Enable
- Scene change threshold: 30% Custom
- Duplicate frames removal: Do not remove

Xenocyde wrote:
dawkinscm wrote:

Fair enough. All the fast motion artefacts I see are improved with v4.15 but left untouched by v4.16. Can you could post a clip? It might be useful to  add it to my test collection.

Here it is.

Same as Dawkinscm no artefacts in this clip.

Hey! I encourage everyone to try the new driver hotfix of nvidia 551.46. They address various sttutering and micro-stuttering and it seems to me that this benefited svp. Let me know what you think.

For those who have more technical knowledge, this it's good for us, right?
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.techpo … face%3famp

aloola wrote:
Blackfyre wrote:
dawkinscm wrote:

I decided to compare Rife 4.9 v1 with Rife 4.9 v2.

Interesting on Github under 4.9 v2 notes it says this:

This improvement does not work after onnx file renaming

The full quote:

RIFE v4.7-v4.9 models with v2 representation for TRT backend now has improved accuracy, contributed by @charlessuh (#66 (comment)). This has been backported to master. This improvement does not work after onnx file renaming.

I tried the new V2 update but I cannot use the model above v4.7-v4.9 v2

I got the error when I ran V4.7>4.9 _v2
[E] Error[4]: [graphShapeAnalyzer.cpp::nvinfer1::builder::`anonymous-namespace'::ShapeAnalyzerImpl::analyzeShapes::2013] Error Code 4: Miscellaneous (IElementWiseLayer /Add: broadcast dimensions must be conformable)

What about use this method instead of renaming

Blackfyre wrote:

RIFE 4.9 needs to be added to SVP, maybe even as a third option @Chainik


I think the same. I tested and see some improvements in some scenes. @Chainik, if more users request it, do you consider doing it?

dawkinscm wrote:

Rife 4.9 is out. First I've got "some" GPU peformance back. Before I was peaking at 83% now I'm peaking at 79%. One of my test files no longer shows any artefacts. Another test file shows improvement and the artefact can be mitigated by reducing SC. One related artefact is still present but seems to have slightly improved as well.

s Rife 4.9 better or improved for movies in general or only focused on anime, thanks in advance.

KK78S wrote:

hello     Unable to use rife        Every time I play a video with rife tensorRt this popup appears

1. Run
2. Wait for 6+ minutes
3. Watch

Drakko01 wrote:
Drakko01 wrote:
Drakko01 wrote:

Chainik, I have been using that combination for months, without problems. Yesterday, an update for Vapoursynth and some more components appeared via maintenance manager. I uninstalled everything and reinstalled and the problem was not resolved. Please, does anyone know how to solve it. MPV works without problems.

This issue is trigger by enable Direct3d 11 in madvr ,for context that s always setting like that without any problem.

Anyone has any ideas on what can i do to fix it ?

I found the root of all my problems, no svp update, no mpchc update, no vapoursynth update, it was the windows 11 update in its preview version 25967.1000. The new update 25977.1000 fixed all the problems I had with playback. Now it is working as before.

Chainik wrote:

dunno, there're no errors in that log... does it work for 1080p?
maybe it's similar to https://www.svp-team.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=7033
all we can do is update vsmlrt, may be there's some known and fixed issue with 4090 / latest drivers /etc...

Please update vsmlrt maybe fix all my problems

chrisssj2 wrote:
Chainik wrote:

No idea.
At least show the full output from the console window...

Where would that be 9 out of 10 times it either causes MPC-HC to dissappear when i activate rife A.I or it shows "MPC-HC has stopped working"

This seems to happen only with 4k hdr video files.


Hello, I have a similar if not the same problem, mine started after the last update I received in maintenance svp. posted in the "New RIFE filter - 3x faster AI interpolation possible in SVP!!!"

There is no response or thoughts from anyone. I share any data needed to fix this problem.

Now its crash no matter what. This it's the info of the crash for someone who understand it

vstrt+0xae9e
vstrt+0xeddb
vapoursynth!getVapourSynthAPI+0x94ba
vapoursynth!getVapourSynthAPI+0x12a0c
vapoursynth+0xf7414
vapoursynth_cp311_win_amd64+0x66643
vapoursynth_cp311_win_amd64+0x6479c
python311!PyObject_MakeTpCall+0x471
python311!PyObject_Vectorcall+0x1e8
python311!PyEval_EvalFrameDefault+0x784
python311!PyType_CalculateMetaclass+0x193
python311!PyEval_EvalCode+0x97
vapoursynth_cp311_win_amd64!PyInit_vapoursynth+0x2654a
vapoursynth_cp311_win_amd64+0x72255
vapoursynth_cp311_win_amd64+0x75ef0
vapoursynth_cp311_win_amd64+0x76c56
vsscript!vsscript_evaluateFile+0x1eb
vapoursynth_filter_64!DllMain+0x10e6a
vapoursynth_filter_64!DllMain+0xdf18
vapoursynth_filter_64+0x1938a
vapoursynth_filter_64!DllMain+0x16d3c
lavvideo!OpenConfiguration+0x9e4e
lavvideo!OpenConfiguration+0x8bd0
lavvideo+0xd150
lavvideo+0xd064
lavvideo+0x3f89
lavvideo+0x31f2
lavvideo+0x1e2a
lavvideo!OpenConfiguration+0x82b9
lavvideo!DllCanUnloadNow+0x496e
lavsplitter!OpenConfiguration+0x675d
lavsplitter!OpenConfiguration+0x6122
lavsplitter!DllCanUnloadNow+0x346c
lavsplitter!DllCanUnloadNow+0x3680a
kernel32!BaseThreadInitThunk+0x17
ntdll!RtlUserThreadStart+0x20

Drakko01 wrote:
Drakko01 wrote:
Chainik wrote:

> Hi after Update today via svp , my rife+Mpc HC+madvr Broke

nothing changed neither in mpc-hc nor rife not madvr recently

Chainik, I have been using that combination for months, without problems. Yesterday, an update for Vapoursynth and some more components appeared via maintenance manager. I uninstalled everything and reinstalled and the problem was not resolved. Please, does anyone know how to solve it. MPV works without problems.

This issue is trigger by enable Direct3d 11 in madvr ,for context that s always setting like that without any problem.

Anyone has any ideas on what can i do to fix it ?

Drakko01 wrote:
Chainik wrote:

> Hi after Update today via svp , my rife+Mpc HC+madvr Broke

nothing changed neither in mpc-hc nor rife not madvr recently

Chainik, I have been using that combination for months, without problems. Yesterday, an update for Vapoursynth and some more components appeared via maintenance manager. I uninstalled everything and reinstalled and the problem was not resolved. Please, does anyone know how to solve it. MPV works without problems.

This issue is trigger by enable Direct3d 11 in madvr ,for context that s always setting like that without any problem.