Hi  someone are updated to  Vapoursynth R71 https://github.com/vapoursynth/vapoursynth/releases, before Chainik roll the update of R70 i got it work by myself , but i cant remember how I did it.

I will like to test  the R71, so if anyone have some advice to make it work i really appreciated the reply.

If Chainik could rollout an update via maintenance application even better

reconhell wrote:

My installation is fine. Don't just say things. I have tried many times across many installations across mutiple OS installations. There is not much to it. It just doesn't work.
The moment i turn on RIFE. the video freezes. I see some text in CMD. and then soon enough no more new text, and just left with freezing video. or a video that just plays extremely slow at 0.1 fps
It's a garbage feature honestly. If in 2 years it can't even work once normally. I wish it did though, because im curious why everyone is on this.
And I really don't get how it is "working" for others. But yeah for me Big nope sad

Ok, fair enough, I said your installation broke/change or missing something and maybe isn't , if you are 100% sure that your installation is ok, I would try find what's causing the problem outside the program, this entire thread has been using rife with many different setups since been implemented and came across with a variety of problems, some so inexplicable that none can reproduced to check.

I don't say just this to discredit you , quite the opposite. Your exact problem happened to me (don't recall exactly the reason but I will look for it ,to try  help you).

One time a windows update broke Svp for me, bang my head try to fixed and the next windows update fix it, in other a bad driver from NVidia make my playback choppy.

I say sincerely, the majority here try to help , like all forum you may find useless post only to brag or talk his absolute truth.

Can you do something like this maybe we can sorted out the problem https://imgur.com/a/VHVCvBZ and one more thing in the path that the builder say the engine file its created , can you check if its actually saved or not

reconhell wrote:
noctis4329 wrote:
reconhell wrote:

Everytime i try to use rife it shows a CMD prompt. and it loads for a very long itme but my video never plays. This hasn't changed in 2 years. not with my rtx 4090 and rtx 5090. i dont get where you guys use this for... seems totally useless im sorry.

long time? i wait only 1 minute for the first time i use a new model for a new resolution.

I can wait however long but it aint changing anything

The problem its that something broke/change or missing in your installation, its not how Rife behave. Like noctis4329 and RickyAstle98 mentioned, the cmd its a normal action and take 1 minute then save and play , next time for that same resolution its not triggered

And for many of us , not using Rife isn't a option.

RickyAstle98 wrote:

Well, you prefer less compatible video player, my 180Hz GSync monitor works great, no matter what multipliers, targets being set!
I dont recomend RIFE x2.5 (24>60) then LSFG x2 because you will see scene transitions more often, since one half the frame being reprojected twice!

About TV VRR window, man thats just TV without LFC/SFD algorithms, which means LSFG will capture frames with JIT delays!
Anyway thanks for your testing, prefer RIFE x3 too, dont see any obvious for GPU cook, since LSFG paired w/RIFE frames allows super high refresh rate conversions with tiny amount of difference!

About tiny amount of difference, of course LSFG is bad from 24FPS conversion, but from RIFEd 48/72 - works/looks 4 times better!

I understand what you saying and I don't refute that a 180hz Gsync monitor can do much better than my tv at any multipliers. But I don't have monitors in my setup.

About Rife x2.5 I concur . whit the settings you suggested i try Rife x2+Lsfg 120hz and Rife x3 Lsfg 120hz

And for a more compatible video player. MPV for me is exactly the opposite, very jerky and stuttering playback .Maybe I change something and made mpv works like that. I really don't know.

If you have a way and time to tested mpv on a similar tv. Your recommendations will be appreciated.

Thanks RickyAstle98/flowreen91  for your recommendations. Its none of that, the app capture fine the frames , enable Draw FPS its the first I do at the start of testing and its ok.

Close overlays like Steam, Discord, NVIDIA,  I never test something with overlays open!

I don't use Mpv, don't liked

The source problem, as I mentioned its hardware related, I think the tv accept better via Gsync compatible and VRR the 72fps or 96 fps of rife x3 and x4, the settings of the picture giving by RickyAstle98 give similar result but still  I prefer  Rife x3 /x4

I'm using windows 11 24h2 , mpcvr testing version, not the vapoursynth of svp, many variables to tweak and try

But again thanks both, I really enjoy testing others option to improve my viewing experience, and some many time through time rewatching movies or clip  I remember how we started and how far we've come today.

Many time thanks to this thread

Any combination I try with LSFG +Rife its not given me better viewing experiences  that Rife x3 or x4 on my tv, maybe I doing something wrong or some setting/program or parameter in my config its interfering.

flowreen91 wrote:
Drakko01 wrote:

Yeah I know, but i dont wanna pay for lsfg

You can test it with SVP without actually buying it from Steam lol
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/ … tD8HzyIQ_e



Ok thanks for that! Now any recommendations on settings
the hardware that I have its the following

I5 13600K
Rtx 4070 ti super
Display Samsung tv Qn85B @120fps/gsync compatible
Player Mpc-be/mpc vr

Thanks in advance

RickyAstle98 wrote:

[I tested RIFE x2 + LSFG 180FPS target (LSFG was updated and can generate frames without exact multipliers with consistent framepacing)!

LSFG from RIFE frames 48>180 looks almost the same as RIFE 24x7 and uses 6 times less resources!

Yeah I know, but i dont wanna pay for lsfg

RickyAstle98 wrote:
Drakko01 wrote:

Hi! I recommend those who wanna experiment, the  new release https://github.com/AmusementClub/vs-mlrt/releases? for me work really well , not much as performance freak, but I KINDA improve image for me or maybe placebo effect.

Actually watching 15.9 footages, I see something changed too, anyways thats 50% placebo!

For performance freaks: 15.9 library - 1.2% performance drop!

Thanks for your testing! I mentioned am not a performance guy, because i'm more interesting of less errors and more quality, i take less performance for better quality anytime, a compromise that many of us do with a newer rife models, but anyways , im think there is some difference, less microstutters, more stable image, i can't quite figured out what exactly or if 15.9 its the reason,and honestly i dont wanna touch anything because a like the way it works now!

Hi! I recommend those who wanna experiment, the  new release https://github.com/AmusementClub/vs-mlrt/releases? for me work really well , not much as performance freak, but I KINDA improve image for me or maybe placebo effect.

masterpdon wrote:

In the meantime, I'd like to revert to the previous version but I can't find anywhere I can do that.

I think chainik can help you with that , but for future updates a good advice its copy the entire SVP folder as a backup.

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Working properly and better than before, thanks!

Hi, someone knows what change on the Rife 4.0-2 that we receive in the SVP maintenance app ?

narkohol wrote:
Chainik wrote:

> Install VapourSynth R70

yeah, great! but why? big_smile

To pass time with placebos until you come up with a new real improvement? wink


Chainik wrote:

everyone following these guides must understand clearly that this will improve absolutely NOTHING

Wasn't so sure about that, but no harm in testing when reverting the change is as easy as copying back a 200MB folder...

Adding to that , and don't even know if it has something to do but a weird thing happen. My display its a samsung tv that it has compatible Gsync and VRR that never engage on playback, odd as it sounds now on MPC Be for some reason sometimes engage VRR and you see a indiscutible improvement on playback.

No much activity on this thread, well here my to cents
For those using Mpc BE/ mpc vr, try the nightly versions and let me know what you think.

https://github.com/qwerttvv/Player/rele … taller.zip

https://github.com/qwerttvv/Player/rele … 72a9eb.zip

Drakko01 wrote:

Since I did not receive any response on how to update vapoursynth R70.... I had to do it on my own, the good thing is that it improved after updating, the bad thing is that I updated everything
   v15.7: latest TensorRT libraries
https://github.com/AmusementClub/vs-mlrt/releases?
   Vapoursynth R70
-https://github.com/vapoursynth/vapoursynth/releases
   MPC-BE.1.8.2.24
-https://github.com/qwerttvv/Player/rele … taller.zip
    MpcVideoRenderer-0.9.0.2328
-https://github.com/qwerttvv/Player/rele … fec66c.zip

and i don't know what do the trick

The only thing this broke its the image comparison option when its selected i got this error,
21:33:10.283 [E]: Playback [75ced45f]: VS - Python exception: There is no attribute or namespace named misc

for contex disable,svp mv,nvof mv,works ok.


Any ideas how to fixed, so image comparison also work.

Since I did not receive any response on how to update vapoursynth R70.... I had to do it on my own, the good thing is that it improved after updating, the bad thing is that I updated everything
   v15.7: latest TensorRT libraries
https://github.com/AmusementClub/vs-mlrt/releases?
   Vapoursynth R70
-https://github.com/vapoursynth/vapoursynth/releases
   MPC-BE.1.8.2.24
-https://github.com/qwerttvv/Player/rele … taller.zip
    MpcVideoRenderer-0.9.0.2328
-https://github.com/qwerttvv/Player/rele … fec66c.zip

and i don't know what do the trick

oriento wrote:

i see that it is using "vapoursynth filter 1.4.7 #svp with vapoursynth r64", but we're at R70 ( https://github.com/vapoursynth/vapoursynth/releases ), maybe you could look if it could be updated ?

I do too add to the request for the update!

If someone knows how do it manually, and can provide a step by step is also welcome too.

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raider10 wrote:

Any special parameter or script to use 4.25 heavy with rife and get more smoothness?

A couple of things

- Hardware?
- Player?
- Display?

I use Mpc-Be/MpcVr, if the player is  mpv, you want a response of one of this members: dawkinscm / Blackfyre/ flowreen91.

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For many of us 4.26 branch are the worst, as flowreen91 say have something broke,  despite the be the latest, I think here we concur that the best one are 4.18/4.25 and V2 models of those. My personal preference is 4.25.

Thoughts on this?, for the devs exist the possibility to consider implementing at least one of this other models, i think many of us that use Rife will really appreciated. Thanks

For those interesting Model 4.26_heavy its out , for me at least don't work as well as 4.25, maybe for those with 4090 will.

Chainik wrote:

all files
dunno which Python version it wants, probably you have to replace portable Python too

Thanks, I think better leave like it is, wait until you decided update on the future.

Chainik wrote:

> I dunno if there a real benefit

nope

> How can I test R70 vapoursynth

put portable release into SVP 4/mpv64

Thanks for respond, which file do a put into mpv64 folder, if copy the entire folder i get unable to initialize vapoursynth api 4.0 error

How can I test R70 vapoursynth instead of R64 provided for svp, and you have  plan to updated ? I dunno if there a real benefit but a think so many things fix/changed on it , that a like to try it. So if someone get me pointers , it will be very appreciated.