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@Chainik it seems they changed the app again. sad Can we get updated instructions?

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cemaydnlar wrote:
Fortune424 wrote:
cemaydnlar wrote:

realEsgran seems to be a bit of a pain so i tried madvr with mpc but the quality is far behind from anime4k. If you guys have a solution to that or at least some setting recommendations that is maybe close to anime4k i would appreciate the effort.

Anime works so well because of the simple lines and lack of motion blur. I don't think anything really exists for film/generic content that produces results as good as Anime4K does for Anime (in real time). You could try NVIDIA's new Video Super Resolution. It's only compatible with MPC right now though as far as I know, and the quality is pretty similar to MadVR with artifact removal, debanding, denoising, etc enabled. https://github.com/emoose/VideoRenderer … ag/rtx-1.1

I watch 1080p content on 1080p monitor. Since i do not do upscaling process i am unfortunately unable to use rtx super resolution. Madvr on anime also looks worse than anime4k. Anime 4k has a better denoise, better color enhancement setting. I couldn't find a good color enhancement setting on madvr and denoise settings do not give the clear view experience that anime4k gives.

If there is an enhancement tool that can be used with mpv like anime4k which is for movies instead of animes i would be glad to learn.

You can try FSRCNNX

here is the link: https://github.com/igv/FSRCNN-TensorFlo … es/tag/1.1

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hyvokar wrote:

Anyone? Is this technically possible?

For what it's worth, it seems that when playing 23.976/59.940FPS movie, the svp seem to be using huge amount of more resources than when playing 24/60FPS

24 to 60 should be just as hard to run as 23.976 to 59.940. You can try re-encoding the video in 24 fps instead  with video editing software and test that, though it seems unlikely that it would fix your performance issues

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dlr5668 wrote:
cemaydnlar wrote:
AutoClickers wrote:

MadVR or realEsgran

I downloaded realEsgran but i don't know how to use it. Do i need to delete anime4k or do they work seperatly ? Can you give another quick guide big_smile

Not possible. Its either svp or that

I wouldn’t say it’s impossible but it’s certainly not easy. You can use MPV Lazy and install both the Rife AI onnx and realEsgran onnx models and also install the vs-mlrt and Vapoursynth packages. Though you’d have to build a program with a gui like SVP or change lines of code every time you want to change the settings. Not to mention you’d probably need top of the line hardware 3090 or better id guess. If I were you, I’d wait a bit for a more simple implementation. It shouldn’t be more than a couple of months away

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cemaydnlar wrote:

Is there a movie version of anime4k for 1080p that works the same without upscaling ?

MadVR or realEsgran

Chainik wrote:

it's a very unusual combination - 4090 + single-channel memory
you must punish whoever made this rig big_smile

Lol I agree this is a very rare scenario. I built this rig so I guess I should punish myself lol, though to be fair the rig had 32 GB of ram at the beginning. After Windows update corrupted my computer it would not even boot into the bios so I had to force reset the bios and I couldn't find the mobo battery. What I ended up doing is removing the ram stick causing the motherboard to reset itself. I didn't notice a significant performance decrease in games so I never bothered to put the second stick until now.

While I agree that saying the Rtx 4090 should be paired with dual channel memory is stupid since nobody has that setup (on purpose at least), I do believe that saying that "dual channel and ram performance is a strong contributor to performance while running RIFE" would help quite a few people who believe that their rigs are underperforming. Especially since somebody in the RIFE thread also found a similar conclusion about ram performance

Major Update:

I installed the second ram stick and the performance skyrocketed. I have concluded that two ram stick is extremely influential to performance. Is there somewhere we can put this information out so other people won't have to go troubleshooting just like me lol

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dlr5668 wrote:
DragonicPrime wrote:

I just use Anime4k. Might not be as good as full upscalers, but it gets the job done for me and makes anime looks significantly better imo. here's the link in case anyone wants it. https://github.com/bloc97/Anime4K

Its pretty good. Just press ctrl+1 for 1080p anime and ctrl+2 or 3 for low quality old one

I would suggest Ctrl + 4 or Ctr+5 if you don't like the sharpness. And yes it is excellent for native 1080p content, especially for the small performance hit compared to esgran. The dream is esgran changes 360 and 480 to 1080 and then anime4k upscaled content to 4k.

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DragonicPrime wrote:

I just use Anime4k. Might not be as good as full upscalers, but it gets the job done for me and makes anime looks significantly better imo. here's the link in case anyone wants it. https://github.com/bloc97/Anime4K

It doesn't work essentially at all for old anime-style content that is 480 or 360p. (Content that needs upscaling the most)

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dlr5668 wrote:

Just use nvidia super res. Its close enough

It's not even close to close enough. Have u seen anime_janai?

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Chainik wrote:

not sure running two models simultaneously is a good idea

Why? The plan is just to upscale the to 720-960p and use rife on that. It shouldn't be a problem for the 4090. Also, would it be possible to run RIFE on the non-Tensor cores and run realEsgran on the Tensor cores to kind of split the load? or would it not help?

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How can I go about adding various (non-shader) upscalers to MPV?

For example, I want to use both RIFE and Anime_Janai -> https://github.com/the-database/mpv-ups … animejanai at the same time. From what I understand vs-mltr has both of these models in the nightly release (PR #42).

https://github.com/AmusementClub/vs-mlrt/releases

My current player is Plex which I have successfully utilized with these instructions https://www.svp-team.com/wiki/SVP:Plex_Media_Player.

Many thanks,

Fortune424 wrote:
AutoClickers wrote:

I couldn't find a way to set a specific resolution, only change it to HD. I think the big issue I have compared to other people is that one of my ram sticks broke so I'm running my PC with a single stick of ram and what I understood from the thread is that ram matters a lot. I'm currently running a single 6000mhz ram module with a 7700x, and getting 0.95 from the graph. I'll update when I decide to go into my pc and either fix the stick I have or add another stick.

That could be the problem, although DDR5 kind of has 2 channels built in so it was a much bigger deal with DDR4.

I haven't really tried it but this is how you would set a custom resolution to downscale to:

Open the advanced settings, where it says -12800720 put -25601440 or whatever. Personally that seems silly to me though and I'd rather do x2 at 4K than x3 at 1440p, especially if your screen is 60hz.

https://i.imgur.com/l4c6qmH.jpg

Yeah I tried it but ultimately decided that the quality tradeoff was not worth it. I also did find that forcing dx11va in mpv improved performance so for the people who are reading this thread later try that if you want to squeeze a little extra out of your GPU.

aloola wrote:
AutoClickers wrote:
aloola wrote:

8 threads are the best for RIFE, using all cores would slower the FPS.

you might try to downscale your 4k video to 3072 x 1728(20% lower res) or 2560*1440 with SVP options.

another option is to use RIFE V2, but it's having a degraded image bug for now. Still waiting for the fix.


picking a downscale option is the best IMO.

I tried using 8 threads but it the same performance as Auto so it looks like the Auto option is working correctly. Could you please link to where I can find the downscaling options just to check?


https://www.svp-team.com/wiki/Manual:Resizing


I couldn't find a way to set a specific resolution, only change it to HD. I think the big issue I have compared to other people is that one of my ram sticks broke so I'm running my PC with a single stick of ram and what I understood from the thread is that ram matters a lot. I'm currently running a single 6000mhz ram module with a 7700x, and getting 0.95 from the graph. I'll update when I decide to go into my pc and either fix the stick I have or add another stick.

aloola wrote:

Unfortunately, it made the situation worse so I resorted back to Auto. I tried manually setting the threads and realized that Auto probably does a very good just using the correct setting.

8 threads are the best for RIFE, using all cores would slower the FPS.

you might try to downscale your 4k video to 3072 x 1728(20% lower res) or 2560*1440 with SVP options.

another option is to use RIFE V2, but it's having a degraded image bug for now. Still waiting for the fix.


picking a downscale option is the best IMO.

I tried using 8 threads but it the same performance as Auto so it looks like the Auto option is working correctly. Could you please link to where I can find the downscaling options just to check?


Unfortunately, it made the situation worse so I resorted back to Auto. I tried manually setting the threads and realized that Auto probably does a very good just using the correct setting.

Disabling GPU scheduling kinda worked. It shows that it's doing 0.97-1 but it drips below that and then continues stuttering. I probably need like 2% more GPU power for it to work lol

cemaydnlar wrote:

Can you please try to set the maximum thread from additional options-processing threads. Also delete that frame height setting from the cross on the right.

Could you please send link to a picture of what that’s is or elaborate further? Or are you simply talking about changing the gpu threads from 1 to 4? I’m having a hard time finding it :c


Fortune424 wrote:

You could try using the 4.4 model instead of 4.6. It is supposed to be a little lighter so you might be able to make up that 0.09. You could also try disabling HAGS (hw accelerated gpu scheduling) which has been reported to help by some people, though I think DLSS Frame Generation requires it so that would be a tradeoff.

Otherwise I'm not too sure unfortunately. The SVP community isn't that big and the number of people with your setup is possibly single digits so you might be the trail blazer here. In the big thread it also sounded like memory speed might play a role. That could be the difference if you're on a DDR4 platform. Not everyone with a 4090 in the thread reported being able to do 3x at 4K.


4.4 didn't help I tried that before posting here. I'll leave HAGS as a last resort coz it's gonna be a bit of a hassle dealing with it. I have 6000 mhz ram set via and XMP profile max allowable by my CPU. I'll try overclocking maybe it will make up the difference

I’ve also heard that choosing RIFE 3.8 is the fastest, can somebody confirm that it makes the difference and if so can somebody send a link to it coz I’ve been trying to find the download with no luck :c.


Edit again: Overlocking the GPU helped but not enough. I am now getting 0.93-0.96, it becomes the green 0.97-1.0 much more often now. I need a very small amount more for it to work but unfortunately I don't think I can push it much harder

I do have a 4090 but I'm using the Plex HTPC (which is a modified MPV player) app maybe it's chugging up resources on its own? (The SVP Control panel shows that its performance is 0.91 instead of 1.0 so I guess I'm quite close.

Edit: NVM I used basic MPV included in the install and it was showing the same performance. The App is surprisingly not the issue.


Setting the GPU to prefer maximum performance did nothing. I'm also using essentially default settings.

Maybe I should change something there or maybe install different a different interpolation algorithm, Im using the default one. I currently have this

Plex HTPC only able to convert 4k24 at 100 mbit/s HDR to 4k48 not 4k60/72 as per this guide https://www.svp-team.com/wiki/RIFE_AI_i … 20Windows. Is this normal or should I change something or is my bit rate too high?