Using windows 7, R9 270 and Omega (14.501-141112a-177751E) and don't have such option in CCC. Dev says w8 but don't refer explicitly that it only works in w8 so don't know. I tried anyway to install it (BlueSky), restarted and still nothing. Went to PotPlayer and added the BlueSky filter, same procedure than ffdshow, set it to prefer and tried some mkv and TS but nothing. SVP working well for my needs so no problem, just curious to do some comparison  tongue

Only thing that could be interesting is if AMD fluid motion were able to interpolate flash videos (streamed video) that can't be interpolated using SVP   neutral

If it's from a tv source I don't think it shows every frame two times, unless u're talking about a video that has been reencoded. If it's 50fps it's highly probable that it's interlaced so in that case u won't gain much from going from 50 to 60.

But if u really want to use SVP and it's interlaced u can choose a deinterlacing method that creates only 1 image for 2 frames so u get 25fps and then u interpolate with SVP. From experience I can tell that for movies and such it can improve smoothness sensation over a double yadif or bob deinterlacing method. For ball sports which I was more interested it did not fit since it creates too much artifacts around the ball.


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vanden wrote:


Funny that with a CRT u complain about motion blur, u should try a LCD for real motion blur big_smile, but CRT with age has slower response and bigger trail from used phosphor, can it be that problem?

In my opinion you do not read or watch the videos !

the CRT screens do not have motion blur, Idem for LightBoost/ULMB/BENQ Blur Reduction/Turbo 240 screens....

But all these screens are victim of double image effect: if you are watching a film (24 to 50 fps) you see this effect !
Look at the test : … qualizer=1

Good if you do not see a diference, is that my eyes are too sensitive ...

Take it easy  smile

I was still using a CRT 2 years ago and using SVP already. But after 10 years of heavy use the screen was no longer bright and color were washed out so after long reading about different models I opted for a dell u2311h, which are not considered to be too bad in motion blur. First day of use I was O_O because of motion blur. I never really worked with a LCD so was a big shock the first days, even looking at the mouse pointer was hard. Almost returned it but kept it after all for other advantages and no real other all around better screen in market, so I think I can tell the difference  big_smile

But what u call double image effect are the sample and hold problem on LCD screens, and it gets all blurry when u add motion blur and some overshooting from RTC, and I don't remember ever seen that problem with my old CRT. And CRT do have motion blur, just check a white square, or round, going across the screen on different speeds and u'll tell me. And it gets worse when phosphor coat gets depleted. But since they are very fast compared to LCD, beam just hit the point for a few nanoseconds, and phosphor usually emits lights for a ms or so, we can say it's virtually motion blur free.

But it's strange that u have a problem similar to the s&h problem on LCD, might be some sync problem causing some stuttering otherwise I don't see what can be the cause. For more deep test u might try pixperan, and see if u have any problem. BTW to see if the problem is more motion blur or s&h problem u can wave ur hand in front of ur eyes and spread ur fingers a little bit for adjustments. Manual black frame insertion  lol . For example in readability test I can get way higher. But I don't think it will do any difference with a CRT  wink


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Funny that with a CRT u complain about motion blur, u should try a LCD for real motion blur big_smile, but CRT with age has slower response and bigger trail from used phosphor, can it be that problem?

Maybe it's time to get a new screen  smile  Only problem is they are almost all TN, but there's a recent one from eizo with a va panel that looks very interesting.


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From experience for interlaced material the best is using only yadif 2x or bob without SVP, unless u have a 120Hz LCD, projector, or CRT capable of 90Hz and above. For the typical 50i source, using yadif 2x u will get 50p so SVP will only calculate 10 additional fps if refresh rate is 60Hz and result can be strange, so advice is not using SVP in that condition  smile

Also, I tested deinterlace algos for output of only 25p and used SVP to interpolate to 60fps. For movies result was interesting, might be better than yadif 2x but for sports, like football big_smile, It created too much artifacts around the ball and small players so I didn't found it worth, despite of a globally better feeling of smoothness.

Regarding deinterlace software u can also try the LAV filters, and quickly activate/deactivate between software (yadif 2x) or hardware  and see the differences. Also watch EVR output to see if u're not getting it deinterlaced twice, this problem can happen sometimes on some settings. If output is 50fps then it's ok.

Chainik wrote:

I think so but maybe there are other situations not present in this short video.

yeah, you should add some

background to make it worse  big_smile

Don't give ideas or people will ask if SVP team can do a similar test video with all situations so it can be visually fast to detect the differences between each interpolation method  big_smile

For testing purposes I use this video that I got from the doom9 motion interpolation (or was it from other page?) some time ago. I uploaded from my hd since I don't remember the original link big_smile

But I don't know if there's a setting to get perfect geometry (tested but perfect perfect no way  neutral, but latest SVP seem better  big_smile  ) and if this video is good for reference as quality you'll get for "real" videos/movies.  I think so but maybe there are other situations not present in this short video.

Invert motion blur maybe? Never saw any TV doing that  big_smile

With SVP you got more fluid movement but if the original image have motion blur you won't get the original object (clear and focused). It's because of that that they can film in 24fps, otherwise it would look frame by frame  wink. For CGI they add software motion blur, like in games big_smile But most of the current LCD's adds extra blur so it is too much (IPS 8ms here). But I think it is to complicated to do it real time or even not in real time, it's like some software were you can recover bad photos when you moved when you clicked  cool  In some shots they can do good results but in others it's impossible to recover.


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For owners of HD 4xxx I found that the best alternative is using Potplayer for decoding with DXVA and custom EVR I tried cyberlink HAM with bitstream but I think Potplayer is faster for decoding and very important it is also free big_smile

No madvr or Haali renderer but I think you can use custom shaders like in MPC too. Check these ones from these thread to improve quality. Here I have resolution of only 720p with small screen so I don't see much difference in the renderings  cool but I think it can be good alternative  smile

Thx smile

I saw the new options for ffdshow raw in the ini file (explanation in russian  hmm ), I tried it and I was able to disable the enabling of raw by SVP, but couldn't find a way that SVP enables it when launched and disabled it when exiting or leave it in the state it was.

I see that there are too options for raw, I tried to mix it but couldn't not do what I wanted. Is it possible?


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Oops did not check topic  big_smile

I don't remember exactly what I found the best, some time ago and very rare that I have this problem, but I think the best was postprocess with all disabled so no cpu use or minimal  wink but it wasn't using much cpu either way.

Option ini better than nothing  smile

But the ideal i think, if it's possible, is that svp when launched always enables ffdshow raw (if launched it means we want to watch movie with smooth motion big_smile) and when exiting svp it restores previous state of ffdshow raw, that is, if ffdshow was already enabled live it enabled but if it was disabled disable it  wink

I don't know if it's possible to deactivate this but each time I launch svp it activates ffdshow raw and I'd like an option to not activate it.

That is, I have some movies that I can't use with svp since they are too cpu demanding (1080p) so I don't use it for smooth motion. So the thing I do is to use dxva for these kind of movies with vmr9 as renderer (Windows XP) and I have ffdshow raw added to the external filters in MPC which is disabled.

But when I watch some movie/clip that my cpu can handle 720p I activate ffdshow in the external filters and madvr renderer. The problem is that svp enables ffdshow raw so the next time I want to watch a 1080p clip I have to disable ffdshow raw in external filters but ALSO I have to go to ffdshow config window to disable raw support.

No big problem but little annoying   big_smile

EDIT: Or option to restore previous state of ffdshow raw when leaving svp would be best...


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Thank you for help  smile

So the posterize effect must switch from NV12 to YV too...

But using post-processing don't use some CPU? I'm on the limit of frame drops for some clips  smile I'll do some tests to see which trick is faster  big_smile

Thanks again for support,



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I was testing some movie trailers and music clips with SVP using Cyberlink HAM and found that the colors were not correct.

Enabling "Light at black borders" restored the correct colors but I don't like the effect and it uses more CPU  roll

I tried to find solution, tested ffdshow for decoding and no problem but with HAM it is faster so I tried to correct the colors in ffdshow. It is very strange but using posterize options in levels from 255 to 254 solved the problem...

Clips are in 720p, mp4 container in VC1 or H264. Tried haali and madvr output but same issue. Problem appears only when SVP starts doing the processing. First second of clip is fine.


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In XP I did not have this problem but I switched to Windows 7 and could not having SVP working with ffdshow raw using a different decoder (Cyberlink with HAM in my case).

Seems that in Windows 7 you have to add the ffdshow raw decoder in external filters in MPC-HC too aside from the decoder otherwise it doesn't work. Strange that in XP no need to do that, I just added Cyberlink 10 but didn't added ffdshow raw and it was working fine smile  but no HAM of course  big_smile

P.S. off-topic

Is there a chance of adding HD 4xxx support in the future? Even partial?  tongue  Probably not since no full OCL support but doesn't harm to ask  big_smile

Thank you for great work,