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oriento wrote:

a 5080 is less powerful than a 4090 hmm

Yes i'm totally aware of that and knew it was a downgrade at the time but I've got specific reasons for doing it. The post was more to check if others were running x3 on their 5080's and it was a config issue at my end. If it can't do it from a hardware perspective that's totally fine.

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Can't remember if Rife really needs the latest Python version or if 3.12.10 is good enough for it. I have 3.13.2 set as default in the PATH, but I need 3.12.10 for another project. It would be easier if I had only one version installed and set as default in the path.

Also, as a side note, could we maybe make a Discord server where we can interact faster? Forums are kinda too old school.

Re: New RIFE filter - 3x faster AI interpolation possible in SVP!!!

Are these the only available AI Models? I'm using the latest version of SVP. I thought there was an update to the AI Models recently?

Also, is it worth using other models for movies or is 4.18 the best? RTX 4090 here.

https://i.ibb.co/k6vBbXpw/2025-05-17-17-08-19.png

2,354 (edited by dawkinscm 18-05-2025 05:11:31)

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kellykline wrote:

Are these the only available AI Models? I'm using the latest version of SVP. I thought there was an update to the AI Models recently?

Also, is it worth using other models for movies or is 4.18 the best? RTX 4090 here.

For most people, Rife 4.25/4.26 are the best followed by 4.18. Other Rife models are here:https://github.com/AmusementClub/vs-mlr … nal-models

2,355 (edited by Xenocyde 18-05-2025 08:45:24)

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Xenocyde wrote:

Can't remember if Rife really needs the latest Python version or if 3.12.10 is good enough for it. I have 3.13.2 set as default in the PATH, but I need 3.12.10 for another project. It would be easier if I had only one version installed and set as default in the path.

Also, as a side note, could we maybe make a Discord server where we can interact faster? Forums are kinda too old school.

Would appreciate some input about the Python version please.

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kellykline
> Are these the only available AI Models?
You can add models: https://www.svp-team.com/wiki/RIFE_AI_i … _AI_models

> is it worth using other models for movies
You can test it yourself.
"Different models produce different interpolation quality with different performance."
You can find the opinions of RIFE filter users in several posts above the topic.

Re: New RIFE filter - 3x faster AI interpolation possible in SVP!!!

Anyone got a problem where fullscreen potplayer becomes black when using RIFE + downscale to 720p?

Re: New RIFE filter - 3x faster AI interpolation possible in SVP!!!

Xenocyde wrote:

Can't remember if Rife really needs the latest Python version or if 3.12.10 is good enough for it. I have 3.13.2 set as default in the PATH, but I need 3.12.10 for another project. It would be easier if I had only one version installed and set as default in the path.

Also, as a side note, could we maybe make a Discord server where we can interact faster? Forums are kinda too old school.

re: Python versions

Couple of options:

1. Just try it?

You could just change which Python is in your PATH and see what happens. If SVP doesn't like it, just change it back. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

2. Shims

Look up 'shims'. Specifically, check out a tool called Scoop: https://scoop.sh/ - one of its features is that it can help you create custom shims. Scoop also makes it really easy to "install" multiple versions of Python (though you will need to setup custom shims to really benefit from this).

Regardless of how you get Python on your system, you can use Scoop to create shims for Python 3.12 and 3.13 (e.g. `python312` and `python313`), and they can both be on your PATH. Then, you can call those shims as if you were calling the respective Python executables directly.

ex: `scoop shim add "python312" "C:\python312\python.exe"`

3. mise

Check out a tool called mise: https://github.com/jdx/mise

One of its features is managing multiple versions of software like Python on a per-directory/project basis. So you could use this tool to just keep using Python 3.13 outside of your project, but switch to 3.12 inside your project.



re: Discord

pls no

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Devs, any chance of packaging SVP to use MVP 0.40 up from the current 0.39?

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Canowyrms wrote:
Xenocyde wrote:

Can't remember if Rife really needs the latest Python version or if 3.12.10 is good enough for it. I have 3.13.2 set as default in the PATH, but I need 3.12.10 for another project. It would be easier if I had only one version installed and set as default in the path.

Also, as a side note, could we maybe make a Discord server where we can interact faster? Forums are kinda too old school.

re: Python versions

Couple of options:

1. Just try it?

Installed only 3.12.10 and added it to PATH and all the projects are working fine, thankfully.


Canowyrms wrote:

re: Discord

pls no

Why not? I think it would help provide faster solutions for people that encounter whatever problems with SVP and RIFE.

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scb wrote:

Devs, any chance of packaging SVP to use MVP 0.40 up from the current 0.39?

From what I have read about the changes, nothing directly affects SVP. After using it for the past week or two, there's no reason for the SVP devs to waste their time. But it's up to them.

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Xenocyde wrote:
Canowyrms wrote:

re: Discord

pls no

Why not? I think it would help provide faster solutions for people that encounter whatever problems with SVP and RIFE.

Searching for things on Discord isn't great, imo. Again imo, it's not a great replacement for forum functionality. It can do it, but it's not great at it. While Discord servers can be publicly joinable, their contents are not publicly visible - so you're not going to get search results in your search engine of choice. I've been lead to these forums numerous times through regular web searches. There's a concern of ownership - while very unlikely, if Discord decides to nuke the server, you're not getting any of that data back.

Anyway, kind of off-topic, and I don't have any sway in the decision anyway lol. Sounds like SVP and your projects are happy with Python 3.12 cool

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Canowyrms wrote:

Searching for things on Discord isn't great, imo. Again imo, it's not a great replacement for forum functionality.

Discord now has forum-like structure if the owner of the server activates it. Was just suggesting a Discord server in addition to the forums here so we can get faster troubleshooting tips, updates, news on RIFE models etc.

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Every discord with more than a few users I know is a mess, everyone is shouting in the room like crazy and only a few "posts" are discussed or worked on. Forums are WAY better, people (usually) think more before posting, discord is more like a whatsapp-chat.

2,365 (edited by sharkdeus 29-05-2025 02:00:07)

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Hi guys  , I don't know if you benchmark already RIFE 4.25 4.9 .. with a tool like difference image frame by frame , but maybe I am wrong with this technique,
Anyway I compare frame by frame and the result :

magick compare -metric RMSE v1

the closer the result is to 0, the smaller the difference between two frames, and therefore the greater the sensation of fluidity.( sorry for my english I am french ) 

Result for the first 30 frames for the same video (video 1 RIFE 4.25 Heavymodel  video 2 RIFE 4.9 ) frame by frame in 60 fps


https://i.ibb.co/xKNkrFYJ/framebyframe.png

What do you think?

Re: New RIFE filter - 3x faster AI interpolation possible in SVP!!!

The heavy models seem to have no benefits and cause more artifacts so I wouldn't use them.

Re: New RIFE filter - 3x faster AI interpolation possible in SVP!!!

4.9 and 4.6 is good enough for me

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Hi, for those interesting , I'm give a run to the new pre-release vapoursynth R72-RC1 and a like the results , for all those that tell me there no benefit, blabla. All the times that I been saying that its good to update this, and Svp developers sooner or later give us the update, when its a latest version.

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Drakko01 wrote:

Hi, for those interesting , I'm give a run to the new pre-release vapoursynth R72-RC1 and a like the results , for all those that tell me there no benefit, blabla. All the times that I been saying that its good to update this, and Svp developers sooner or later give us the update, when its a latest version.

I've been thinking about upgrading Vapoursynth for a while now. What are the benefits you are seeing?

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upgrading Vapoursynth is like upgrading VC++ redists
i.e. absolutely pointless big_smile

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Chainik wrote:

upgrading Vapoursynth is like upgrading VC++ redists
i.e. absolutely pointless big_smile

I think upgrading VC++ redists can break stuff if the old redist is replaced since the libraries are not backwards compatible. smile

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dawkinscm wrote:
Drakko01 wrote:

Hi, for those interesting , I'm give a run to the new pre-release vapoursynth R72-RC1 and a like the results , for all those that tell me there no benefit, blabla. All the times that I been saying that its good to update this, and Svp developers sooner or later give us the update, when its a latest version.

I've been thinking about upgrading Vapoursynth for a while now. What are the benefits you are seeing?

I always speak on what i see, never in technical aspect that not know. and maybe before I broke something for manual changes i made.
but after replace the files the playback was different and I prefer so.

Chainik wrote:
upgrading Vapoursynth is like upgrading VC++ redists
i.e. absolutely pointless big_smile

I think upgrading VC++ redists can break stuff if the old redist is replaced since the libraries are not backwards compatible. smile

So tell me why Svp installer dont use and R64 version.

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Drakko01 wrote:
dawkinscm wrote:
Drakko01 wrote:

Hi, for those interesting , I'm give a run to the new pre-release vapoursynth R72-RC1 and a like the results , for all those that tell me there no benefit, blabla. All the times that I been saying that its good to update this, and Svp developers sooner or later give us the update, when its a latest version.

I've been thinking about upgrading Vapoursynth for a while now. What are the benefits you are seeing?

I always speak on what i see, never in technical aspect that not know. and maybe before I broke something for manual changes i made.
but after replace the files the playback was different and I prefer so.

What do you see?

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dawkinscm wrote:
Drakko01 wrote:
dawkinscm wrote:

I've been thinking about upgrading Vapoursynth for a while now. What are the benefits you are seeing?

I always speak on what i see, never in technical aspect that not know. and maybe before I broke something for manual changes i made.
but after replace the files the playback was different and I prefer so.

What do you see?

I say this figuratively; I'm not referring to timing or any technical aspect. If I notice a visual improvement, I consider it a win. In the latest svp update, or perhaps because of my own fault, I see a lot of image errors, like in the early days of Rife; with R72, I notice less obvious or almost disappeared.
To be honest I don't wanna change anything to test if really has to be for the vapoursynth or just pure coincidence.