Topic: Can play 1080p but cant play 720p (XBMC DSPlayer)

Hi I'm running XBMC (DSPlayer) I've installed SVP and have used Rimsky's tutorial here And everything seems to be installed correct... when I load a 1080p file SVP loads and the file plays excellent but when I play a 720p file SVP does not load but I can hear the audio fine but screen stays black... My Plasma & Projector are 720p models, I've tried installing/un-installing various LAV Filters without any luck this seems very strange to me any advice.

Hardware:
CPU: AMD Phenom X4, GPU: Geforce 440GT, Win 7

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Re: Can play 1080p but cant play 720p (XBMC DSPlayer)

indiejones
Please, show MediaInfo of this 720p file.
You can get it by pressing Shift-F10 in MPC-HC and click at MediaInfo tab.

Re: Can play 1080p but cant play 720p (XBMC DSPlayer)

This is just an example as it happens with all my 720p files.... All 1080p files play excellent and have no problems I've added a MediaInfo sample from both 720 & 1080p

720p file:

General
UniqueID/String                  : 206034767489268555529301326838081721297 (0x9B00DA530471CBAC98643085A7AB13D1)
CompleteName                     : \\MEDIAPC\Video\Alice in Wonderland (2010)\Alice in Wonderland.mkv
Format                           : Matroska
Format_Version                   : Version 2
FileSize/String                  : 4.37 GiB
Duration/String                  : 1h 48mn
OverallBitRate/String            : 5 764 Kbps
Encoded_Date                     : UTC 2008-05-07 20:18:35
Encoded_Application              : mkvmerge v2.9.8 ('C'est le bon') built on Aug 21 2009 13:21:42
Encoded_Library/String           : libebml v0.7.7 + libmatroska v0.8.1

Video
ID/String                        : 1
Format                           : AVC
Format/Info                      : Advanced Video Codec
Format_Profile                   : High@L3.1
Format_Settings_CABAC/String     : Yes
Format_Settings_RefFrames/String : 5 frames
CodecID                          : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
Duration/String                  : 1h 48mn
BitRate/String                   : 4 254 Kbps
Width/String                     : 1 280 pixels
Height/String                    : 720 pixels
DisplayAspectRatio/String        : 16:9
FrameRate/String                 : 23.976 fps
ColorSpace                       : YUV
ChromaSubsampling                : 4:2:0
BitDepth/String                  : 8 bits
ScanType/String                  : Progressive
Bits-(Pixel*Frame)               : 0.193
StreamSize/String                : 3.14 GiB (72%)
Encoded_Library/String           : x264 core 94 r1583 7608d73
Encoded_Library_Settings         : cabac=1 / ref=5 / deblock=1:0:0 / analyse=0x3:0x113 / me=umh / subme=7 / psy=1 / psy_rd=1.00:0.20 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=1 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / fast_pskip=1 / chroma_qp_offset=-3 / threads=12 / sliced_threads=0 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / interlaced=0 / constrained_intra=0 / bframes=3 / b_pyramid=2 / b_adapt=1 / b_bias=0 / direct=3 / weightb=1 / weightp=0 / keyint=250 / keyint_min=25 / scenecut=40 / intra_refresh=0 / rc_lookahead=40 / rc=2pass / mbtree=1 / bitrate=4254 / ratetol=1.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=10 / qpmax=51 / qpstep=4 / cplxblur=20.0 / qblur=0.5 / ip_ratio=1.40 / aq=1:1.00
Language/String                  : English
Default/String                   : Yes
Forced/String                    : No

Audio
ID/String                        : 2
Format                           : DTS
Format/Info                      : Digital Theater Systems
Format_Profile                   : ES
CodecID                          : A_DTS
Duration/String                  : 1h 48mn
BitRate_Mode/String              : Constant
BitRate/String                   : 1 510 Kbps
Channel(s)/String                : 6 channels
ChannelPositions                 : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
SamplingRate/String              : 48.0 KHz
BitDepth/String                  : 24 bits
Compression_Mode/String          : Lossy
StreamSize/String                : 1.15 GiB (26%)
Language/String                  : English
Default/String                   : Yes
Forced/String                    : No

Text
ID/String                        : 3
Format                           : UTF-8
CodecID                          : S_TEXT/UTF8
CodecID/Info                     : UTF-8 Plain Text
Language/String                  : English
Default/String                   : No
Forced/String                    : No

1080p file:

eneral
UniqueID/String                  : 201193189032766048143739626143896455976 (0x975C661398548260A3ECB43362664B28)
CompleteName                     : \\MEDIAPC\Videos2\The Adventures of Tintin (2011)\The Adventures of Tintin.mkv
Format                           : Matroska
Format_Version                   : Version 1
FileSize/String                  : 8.74 GiB
Duration/String                  : 1h 46mn
OverallBitRate/String            : 11.7 Mbps
Encoded_Date                     : UTC 2012-02-23 14:01:42
Encoded_Application              : mkvmerge v2.2.0 ('Turn It On Again') built on Mar  4 2008 12:58:26
Encoded_Library/String           : libebml v0.7.7 + libmatroska v0.8.1

Video
ID/String                        : 1
Format                           : AVC
Format/Info                      : Advanced Video Codec
Format_Profile                   : High@L4.1
Format_Settings_CABAC/String     : Yes
Format_Settings_RefFrames/String : 4 frame2
CodecID                          : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
Duration/String                  : 1h 46mn
BitRate/String                   : 10.2 Mbps
Width/String                     : 1920 pixel3
Height/String                    : 816 pixel3
DisplayAspectRatio/String        : 2.35:1
FrameRate/String                 : 23.976 fps2
ColorSpace                       : YUV
ChromaSubsampling                : 4:2:0
BitDepth/String                  : 8 bit3
ScanType/String                  : Progressive
Bits-(Pixel*Frame)               : 0.272
StreamSize/String                : 7.44 GiB (85%)
Encoded_Library/String           : x264 core 120 r2164 da19765
Encoded_Library_Settings         : cabac=1 / ref=4 / deblock=1:1:1 / analyse=0x3:0x113 / me=umh / subme=10 / psy=1 / psy_rd=0.85:0.00 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=48 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=2 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / fast_pskip=0 / chroma_qp_offset=-4 / threads=36 / sliced_threads=0 / nr=0 / decimate=0 / interlaced=0 / bluray_compat=0 / constrained_intra=0 / bframes=8 / b_pyramid=2 / b_adapt=2 / b_bias=0 / direct=3 / weightb=1 / open_gop=0 / weightp=2 / keyint=250 / keyint_min=23 / scenecut=40 / intra_refresh=0 / rc_lookahead=60 / rc=2pass / mbtree=1 / bitrate=10205 / ratetol=1.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=0 / qpmax=69 / qpstep=4 / cplxblur=20.0 / qblur=0.5 / ip_ratio=1.40 / aq=2:1.20
Language/String                  : en
Default/String                   : Yes
Forced/String                    : No

Audio
ID/String                        : 2
Format                           : DTS
Format/Info                      : Digital Theater Systems
CodecID                          : A_DTS
Duration/String                  : 1h 46mn
BitRate_Mode/String              : CBR
BitRate/String                   : 1510 Kbps
Channel(s)/String                : 6 channel3
ChannelPositions                 : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
SamplingRate/String              : 48.0 KHz
BitDepth/String                  : 16 bit3
Compression_Mode/String          : Lossy
StreamSize/String                : 1.13 GiB (13%)
Default/String                   : Yes
Forced/String                    : No

Re: Can play 1080p but cant play 720p (XBMC DSPlayer)

I've also got to add is that 720p files play fine in MPC-HC it's just when using XBMC DSPlayer

Re: Can play 1080p but cant play 720p (XBMC DSPlayer)

Here is the SVP Log of a 1080p file and a 720p file

11:22:35.673; GetDimensionAndFPS_Grab start. Duration: 501 ms
11:22:36.174; GetDimensionAndFPS_Grab start. Duration: 170 ms
11:22:36.344; GetDimensionAndFPS_Grab result: 1920 816 23.976
11:22:36.345; T1T: prepare
11:22:36.375; T1T: begin. Duration: 29 ms
11:22:36.404; T1T: GetAllMediaParams
11:22:36.404; T1T: SettingsPrepare. Duration: 12 ms
11:22:36.416; T1T: Preparing smooth playback...
11:22:36.416; T1T: WriteAllMediaParamsToIni. Duration: 10 ms
11:22:36.426; application launch...
command: C:\Program Files (x86)\SVP\SVPMgr
parameters: main "C:\Users\Alex\AppData\Roaming\SVP 3.1\" 1228 522 23.976 1920 816 5 2
write to log: True. Duration: 509 ms
11:22:36.935; T1T: SVPMgr main. Duration: 26 ms
11:22:36.961; T1T: Playback
23.976 * (5 : 2) = 59.94 fps
11:22:36.961; SetPriorityPlayer: 2. Duration: 19598 ms
11:22:56.559; RefreshSVP begin
11:22:56.561; RefreshSVP end: Waiting for ffdshow video. Duration: 12699 ms
11:23:09.260; GetDimensionAndFPS_Grab start. Duration: 143 ms
11:23:09.403; GetDimensionAndFPS_Grab result: 1280 720 23.976
11:23:09.404; T1T: prepare
11:23:09.435; T1T: begin. Duration: 30 ms
11:23:09.465; T1T: GetAllMediaParams
11:23:09.465; T1T: SettingsPrepare. Duration: 12 ms
11:23:09.477; T1T: Preparing smooth playback...
11:23:09.478; T1T: WriteAllMediaParamsToIni. Duration: 9 ms
11:23:09.487; application launch...
command: C:\Program Files (x86)\SVP\SVPMgr
parameters: main "C:\Users\Alex\AppData\Roaming\SVP 3.1\" 1280 720 23.976 1280 720 5 2
write to log: True. Duration: 510 ms
11:23:09.997; T1T: SVPMgr main. Duration: 58 ms
11:23:10.055; T1T: Playback
23.976 * (5 : 2) = 59.94 fps
11:23:10.055; SetPriorityPlayer: 2. Duration: 2276 ms
11:23:12.331; this is changing FalseVFR_Dwn. ffdShow-framerate: 15.78 SVP Index:1.01/0.97
11:23:13.266; this is changing FalseVFR_Dwn. ffdShow-framerate: 12.243 SVP Index:0.98/1.49
11:23:14.200; this is changing FalseVFR_Up. ffdShow-framerate: 18.865 SVP Index:0.98/1.49
11:23:15.137; this is changing FalseVFR_Up. ffdShow-framerate: 21.722 SVP Index:1.00/1.33
11:23:16.073; this is changing FalseVFR_Up. ffdShow-framerate: 22.993 SVP Index:1.01/1.07
11:23:17.009; this is changing FalseVFR_Up. ffdShow-framerate: 23.572 SVP Index:1.01/1.03
11:23:17.937; this is changing #2. ffdShow-framerate: 23.976 SVP Index:0.97/1.05
11:23:26.367; clear interval. Duration: 936 ms
11:23:27.303; stabilized framerate: 23.976 fps
11:24:03.810; RefreshSVP begin
11:24:03.811; RefreshSVP end: Waiting for ffdshow video
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Re: Can play 1080p but cant play 720p (XBMC DSPlayer)

indiejones
screen stays black
It is not SVP problem.

Format_Version                   : Version 2

Format_Version                   : Version 1

May be this is the cause?!

Try to use Haali matroska splitter and LAV splitter.

Re: Can play 1080p but cant play 720p (XBMC DSPlayer)

Hi MAG79
Thanks for the reply the default splitter was Haali so I tried the LAV Splitter and I got the same result... I've created a video below of my problem

http://youtu.be/pI0SI_-vCRY

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Re: Can play 1080p but cant play 720p (XBMC DSPlayer)

Yea, this clearly doesn't have anything to do with SVP. It seems like a renderer problem to me, does XMBC support alternative renderers? That would be my first shot. Simply changing it to something else.

Re: Can play 1080p but cant play 720p (XBMC DSPlayer)

heyer
This is a modded version of XBMC with an internal player that uses external filters

http://forum.xbmc.org/showthread.php?tid=106629

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Re: Can play 1080p but cant play 720p (XBMC DSPlayer)

heyer
Format_Version                   : Version 1/2
Download new mkvtoolnix and try to resave videofile in mkvmergeGUI
Did you try haali or LAV splitter?

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Re: Can play 1080p but cant play 720p (XBMC DSPlayer)

Try to downgrade your nvidia drivers, it may solve many problems neutral

Re: Can play 1080p but cant play 720p (XBMC DSPlayer)

Thanks for all the advice guys but I've tried all the above... As for Nvidia drivers I came from an older driver to the latest driver thinking that was my problem, 99.9% of my files are MKV... I've got a feeling that the problem lies with FFDShow not loading when on 720p files... More investigating needed I might post this up in XBMC DSPlayer section to see if it's DSPlayer related

Re: Can play 1080p but cant play 720p (XBMC DSPlayer)

Follow up guys.... I've seemed to of narowed down the problem.... I went into the Nvidia control panel and changed my resolution to 1920x1080 (My native rsolution is 1280x720) then started up XBMC and all files played (1080p & 720p) the only problem was my CPU started maxing out at 90+% and video's started juddering.... I did try and edit the 1920x1080 profile in SVP but it's all to complicated for me.... I've had to now revert back to not using SVP  sad

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Re: Can play 1080p but cant play 720p (XBMC DSPlayer)

There's a setting for SVP to automaticly downsize the video, before applying frame-interpolation. Though your statements further my belief in the fact, that your renderer is the problem. If I were you, I would ask around on the XMBC forum. They would appreciate the bug report, that's for sure.

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Re: Can play 1080p but cant play 720p (XBMC DSPlayer)

indiejones
I went into the Nvidia control panel and changed my resolution to 1920x1080 (My native rsolution is 1280x720)
I don't see any logic here hmm
For what?

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Re: Can play 1080p but cant play 720p (XBMC DSPlayer)

Could you please tell us which nvidia version drivers do you use?

Re: Can play 1080p but cant play 720p (XBMC DSPlayer)

indiejones: I went into the Nvidia control panel and changed my resolution to 1920x1080 (My native rsolution is 1280x720)
MAG79: I don't see any logic here
For what?

I was just trying to narrow down what the problem could be.... After I changed the resolution to 1920x1080 in Nvidia Control Panel SVP worked with both 1080p & 720 files it was just that my CPU went sky high 90+% and SVP flashed up on screen with a CPU warning... and when I changed back to native (1280x720) 720p files dont play only audio but 1080p files play fine

Could you please tell us which nvidia version drivers do you use?

I've tried both the latest drivers (296.10 & Beta 301.24) after coming from an earlier driver (285.62)

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Re: Can play 1080p but cant play 720p (XBMC DSPlayer)

indiejones
It is wrong way to use resolution of videomode bigger than resolution of display.

BTW, I use nVidia driver 258.96 because of its speed on my system.

http://www.svp-team.com/forum/misc.php?item=1538

another diagrams see here (in Russian forum)