1 Reply by noobz02152

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@bonega Maybe this helps:
https://www.svp-team.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=5183

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2 Reply by noobz02152

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This Media Info screenshot is from another sample I cut from a movie.

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3 Reply by noobz02152

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Did some more tests, unsuccessful. Automatic profile. With the settings below.
Test sample from here: https://kodi.wiki/view/Samples#3D_Test_Clips
1 3D Test Clips segment, 5th file.

A Media Info screenshot of what the original 3D MVC MKV file is in the first post (right side).

Using MPC HC (x86&64) and MPC BE (x64), Lav filters, madvr (with 3D enabled). When playing the original file the display jumps automatically in 3D Frame Packing 1080p@24 mode.
Win10x64, GTX1060, 425.31. 3D stereoscopic is setup in NVCP.

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4 Reply by noobz02152

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MAG79 wrote:

If a video meets the conditions of several profiles, the profile with the largest number of conditions is applied (for more details, see the description of the condition Expert: add scores).

Conditions for Applying the Profile

The profile I'm trying to apply is Automatic. Doesn't have that option. Made a copy of it and it did.
Tried to add player location and extension by playing a file in the player, and it would automatically add it (pictures below). However this did not add it as default profile.

On the bottom of the Conditions for Applying the Profile there is a mention of how to apply strings, which is different from how the software does it itself.

Got it to work by adding Frame With and Frame height >1.

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5 Topic by noobz02152

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Hello,

I have several profiles added. They start with 1,2, or 01, 02, etc.
Whenever SVP opens or when starting a new video, it goes to one of them (labeled 11s), regardless of what I selected before.

This is not the profile I want it to go by default, so how do I change that?
I've tried renaming 11s to something else, and modifying the 11s profile with the preferred settings, but now it goes to the renamed 11s profile. It seems like it does not matter what it is called, but what the settings are.

Tried creating a profile named 1,11, 1111, 01111, but still goes to 11s.
If I delete 11s, it goes to profile 02.

I have to change to the desired profile every time a video starts.
How can a default profile be set?

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6 Reply by noobz02152

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Having an issue with jagged lines in this 3D TAB setup. Latest madvr, LAV, etc.

In this mode whenever there are straight lines there is a jagged artifact.
Pictures in the link: around the edge of the table, and the letters in the 2nd picture.
https://imgur.com/a/Tv7lUno

These jagged edges are not present in frame packing mode.
Using BD3D2MK3D I've made a TAB version of the file and no artifacts there either. I don't remember seeing any artifacts in any other previous TAB/SBS files.

Tried a few things:
Disabled sharpness from NVCP>Video>Adjust video image settings
Moved projector Sharpness slider.
In madvr:
Disabled all in artifact removal, image enhancements, upscaling refinement - some settings in image enhancements accentuate the problem.
Tried different settings in scaling algorithms.
Tried different dithering.
Nothing clicked in trade quality for performance.

When using this method LAV Video disappears from the taskbar and ffdshow video decoder raw is present. Only AviSynth is enabled.
If I add LAV Video as external and enable it, then there is no TAB, plays 2D image.
Tried to play around with the preferred when both ffdshow raw and LAV Video are enabled, did not work.
Tried in the next option bar External filters>Priority to select LAV splitter/source, TAB does not play.


I assume the artifacts are due to image compression.
What can be done to eliminate this issue?

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7 Reply by noobz02152

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dlr5668 wrote:
Alexander09138 wrote:

Thanks for the responses. I have a 144hz 1440p monitor, i7-9700k, GTX 1070 and 16GB of RAM. I use SVP at 144fps now, but I can't stand the soap opera effect, which is why i use 1.5m...perfect balance IMO.

By the way, the type of media I watch is often tv series (usually 1080p) and films.

I rewatched Expanse bluray recently with this override and 72 hz (middle ground between soap and judder like original) and it was amazing

https://i.imgur.com/MUWudzC.png

C:\Program Files (x86)\SVP 4\script\override.js

smooth.scene.limits.m1             = 800; //1600
smooth.scene.limits.m2             = 1400; //2800
smooth.scene.limits.scene         = 2000; //4000
analyse.main.levels                 = -1;
analyse.main.penalty.lambda         = 14.0; //10
analyse.main.penalty.plevel         = 1.4; //1.5

@dlr5668 what are the rest of the settings in the screenshot?
Regarding the script, do I just copy it in the SVP scripts folder?


Haven't got a camera but from doing some research 1080p DLP projectors can be overclocked up to 75Hz, but skip frames.

I don't have a good knowledge of SVP, but I played around with the options and the judder seems to come if interpolation mode is set to anything other than Uniform or Adaptive>Uniform, and/or Artifact masking is set to Strongest.

60FPS does not seem to differ from 72FPS (on the monitor).

Used the settings in the attached screenshot and had no judder in the LD&R test scene, but the panning is smudged.
Is it possible 60 or 72FPS is not enough for a smooth and clear transition in this scene?

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8 Reply by noobz02152

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chocomel wrote:

to test if the "judder" is related to your display config you can check out this page:
https://www.testufo.com/photo#photo=que … ;height=-1
it's very easy to see if your display can handle the framerate

Just close everything else like Browsertabs or Programs that are Ressource-Intensive and/or use your GPU in some way and then press the fullscreen Button in the upper right.
Also Edge and IE are not supported. FF, Chrome or Opera are fine.

If it is completely smooth, it's probably your rendering times that cause the judder. Meaning your GPU/CPU can't handle decoding/processing/rendering of your source file + SVP.
If you see interruptions, your display can't handle the framerate.

Also i saw you did the custom resolution via NVCP... while in theory that should work its probably a good idea to check if the settings madVR calculates for you give a better result.

Your 'Power management mode' in the NV Settings should be 'Adaptive', also try to force VSync: ON for testing purposes - or better create a Profile for your video player (to prevent issues with other programs or games) and leave the VSync setting on Application-controlled.

The Dell is set as primary display, with PJ 2nd, extended displays.
Monitor connected via DVI, PJ via HDMI.
The VGA has an 2.0b HDMI and the PJ has an 2.0a for HDMI port #1 and 1.4a for HDMI port #2 (regular 10m/30ft cable), so I don't think bandwidth is a problem.
Tested both PJ HDMI inputs.

Test UFO seems to require the test be run on the primary display, if the test is run on the 2nd display it will take the refresh rate from the primary.
Tested on FF x64, latest, all add ons disabled.
The Dell ran smoothly on 4 refresh rates: 48, 60, 72, 75.
The Benq ran smoothly on 2 refresh rates 48 and 60. On 72 and 75 there was constant judder.

I ran the video test file again with the refresh rates that were smooth on the respective displays, and judder was still present.

Tested SVP on the displays while they were primary/secondary (while extended). Also disconnected each one to see if it would make any difference with only 1 display.

In madvr OSD, the render time is about 8ms, so under the required vsync.
Also in madvr OSD the screen refresh rate is accurate, with one exception: with the Dell on fullscreen (it says it's 60Hz). To achieve a correct value Full Screen Exclusive needs to be disabled.

When testing SVP with 48Hz the CPU is at 50% and GPU at 40%, with judder present. On 60Hz CPU is at 70% and GPU at 90%.

Updated drivers from 416, to 418 and now to 425.31 (last driver with 3D support). Used DDU.
Tested with vsync on (was set at Use the 3D application setting) and changed PMM to Adaptive (was set at Prefer maximum performance). No difference.
The GPU can do PCIE 16 x3, tested with GPU Z.
Settings in NVCP for PJ are: RGB, Full dynamic range, 8bit color depth. PJ is set to PC signal.
Tested with RGB Limited as well (changed from NVCP and PJ). YCbCR is not available for 72 and 75 Hz.
PJ settings: Brilliant color Off. Tried Cinema (Rec. 709) and Game modes. Keystone Off. Noise Reduction 0. Film Mode On. No overscan. HDMI Audio Off (from Windows, NVCP, PJ).

dlr5668 wrote:
noobz02152 wrote:

Judder appears in the same fashion on both displays

All the time or only during some scenes ? watch this already encoded cut @ 71.928hz https://cloud.mail.ru/public/5Q3Z/5b11wegeF

It does not appear all the time, just in some scenes.
For testing purposes I use Love, Death and Robots episode 2 (Morpheus) 3min:42sec, when the camera pans from right to left.

Downloaded the file. Tested at 72Hz on both displays.
There seems to be some minor judder/artifacts at second 4 (around the main character), and the next second 5 on the left side of the face (around the ear).
The rest is too fast to notice anything wrong, but not very smooth.

dlr5668 wrote:

also https://testufo.com/frameskipping + camera. SLR is the best but even cheap 80$ android is OK. Setup lowest ISO + continuous shot. Grab 50-100 shots and check them all

Will try as soon as I can get a camera.

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9 Reply by noobz02152

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OC'd PJ to 48, 72 and 75hz (for the last 2 the only way to achieve this is with CVT Reduced Blank). Monitor only 48hz.
NVCP does not allow 71.xx, just round numbers.

Tested with the profiles mentioned in post 6.
Still getting judder, can't tell if there is any difference between 60 and 72Hz. Used an exactly 24.0 FPS file, not 23.976.

Judder appears in the same fashion on both displays.
Not sure if it's the displays that are limited, DLP should be the best implementation for smoothness.

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10 Reply by noobz02152

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chocomel wrote:

yes, framerate does matter if you want perfectly smooth playback.

SVP theoretically CAN smooth out the playback regardless, but:
Non-integer factors for increasing the Framerate are bad because the necessary workload increases a lot while actually producing worse looking frames.
That's why its always better to set it to "Movie x2" (or x3,... whatever your hardware can handle) instead of "fixed 60fps" or "to screen".

So for example; let's say you have a 24fps video and your display is set to 60hz. According to your config, SVP would do the processing like this:
  24fps * 5 / 2 -> 60fps
which is worse than having it set to either 48 fps (24fps *2) or 72 fps (24 fps * 3) because more calculation/artificial frames lead to more blur and artefacts.

48 fps might look A BIT less fluid than 60 fps, but the gain in quality is totally worth it.

to sum it up; you need to set your screen to a multiple refresh rate of your source materials fps. (eg. 24 fps video -> set your display to either 48, 72 or 144 - nothing in between)
Using madVR you can automatically change the refresh rate accordingly when opening a video file. now with SVP set to match the screen, you are "perfectly" set up.

Are you saying that the display needs to be set at 60Hz and SVP at x2, or does the display needs to be set at x2 file refresh rate as well?

For 24Hz, the frame rate is actually 23.975, so would x2 be 47.95Hz?

Both the screen and the projector can do up to 75Hz. Are there any dangers in overclocking them?

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Still getting judder in a panning scene.
Tried the settings above and the one in the screenshot (below).
Not sure how to work the script, I just copied the one above in the SVP scripts directory.
Artifact masking does not help.
Tried changing Search Radius to Small and Motion Vectors grid to 16x.
Tried the 13 Automatic profiles.

Does it matter if the refresh rate is to screen rather than Fixed 60.0 fps?

Intel i5 8400, GTX 1060, Win10x64. Lav 0.74.1, madvr 0.92.17, MPC HC & BE x64. 2 displays, Dell 2209 WAf, Benq W2000 (HT3050).

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12 Reply by noobz02152

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Thanks.

Do I need to change anything in ffdshow relating to Avisynth?

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13 Topic by noobz02152

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Hello,

What is the recommended player type for best performance, x86 or x64?

Did a test with MPC HC (1.8.6) x86 versus the x64 version, same settings. Cpu was at 65% on the x64 version and 75% on the x86. Gpu was at 92% in both cases.
This is the use in Task manager for MPC HC only.
The render time in madvr OSD is about the same.

Lav 0.74.1 x86 and x64 installed, madvr 0.92.17.
Intel i5 8400 full turbo (3.8-3.9Ghz), GTX 1060, Win10x64.

Via Codec Tweak Tools ffdshow video decoder and ffdshow video processor can be inspected, for both x86 and x64.
In ffdshow video decoder x86, under Codecs, AviSynth is disabled.
In ffdshow video decoder x64 it's enabled.

AviSynth however is not ticked in the left side panel in any of the 4 settings menu.
It is ticked when ffdshow is accessed via the taskbar when SVP is active.
Can't tell if this is the 64 or 32 bit version. Under Codecs there is only raw enabled.

What is the preferred solution?

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14 Reply by noobz02152

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Ok, wasn't sure if it was suppose to do that.

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15 Topic by noobz02152

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Hello,

When using SVP Tube 2 and selecting a video which is listed with audio and video (V+A) I get 2 instances of LAV Splitter in the taskbar. If I select a stream which SVP tells me it has no audio, I only get one instance of LAV Splitter, even though the video has audio. MP4 and VP9 work the same way.
Downloading said video (with V+A) and playing it locally, only one version of LAV Spliiter shows up.

Using MPC HC, MPC HCx64, MPC BE x64 (latest), LAV 74.1 (tested with LAV 73.1 as well). All internal filters are disabled. No external filters, except ffdshow raw.
Properties for internal filters in MPC HC and MPC HC x64 tell me it's 73.1 version of LAV, so I know it's not using those since the LAV Spliiter instances say it's 0.74.1. Win10x64, Xonar DGX.

In MPC properties there is only one audio stream, as well in Play>Audio Track.

Thank you.

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16 Topic by noobz02152

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Hello,

I am trying to transcode an 3D MVC or a 3D ISO.
Tried this sample: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BwxFVk … 9XMDA/view
From here: https://kodi.wiki/view/Samples

It did not do it right. Media info in picture, original is on the right.

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When using the method described in the first post LAV Video disappears from the taskbar.
If I add LAV Video as external and enable it, then there is no TAB, plays normally.

Tried to play around with the preferred when both ffdshow raw and LAV Video are enabled, did not work.
Tried in the next option bar External filters>Priority to select LAV splitter/source, TAB does not play.

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