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I'm aiming for 120 fps 4K HDR processsing with quality settings by SVP, so I guess I need smt beefy for cpu and gpu to get it done.
Since the last generation AMD X3D processors are available. These cpu's are equipped with 3D V-Cache technology and are promoted as gaming cpu's. My simple question is: Can this X3D technology result in better SVP performance?
That seemed to work out, thanks.
Getting this exact same error as well but no files that even look like the one missing can be found at the location. What can I do to fix it?
Come on, $20 is a bargain already. Why on earth would you hesitate buying SVP if you like what it does?
I am planning for an LG 77CX and a monster pc (next-gen AMD cpu & Nvidia gpu) to do 4K@120fps but when I read this I think I should be reconsidering that plan maybe. I am very satisfied with FHD@60fps on my old Pioneer plasma rightnow. A lot smoother than FHD@24fps with virtually no artifacts. 120fps should be better since it's a multiple of 24fps. Is it really going to be worse than LG's built-in frame interpolation?
Those settings give way more artifacts than I'm used to, but I understand you want max fluidity and are willing to sacrifice more for that. I always settle for much less fluidity and minimized artifacts, only visible in high contrast fast moving scenes. I'll keep my settings for the moment. Planning on switching to an 120Hz OLED with new HTPC and then I'm in a different ballgame working with multiples 5x. Thanks for your input.
Works like a charm. Thanks.
cemaydnlar wrote:Can you guys tell me which settings decrease the artifacts around moving objects or fast scenes. Is it possible to take those artifacts to a minimum amount without losing smoothness ?
You will lose some smoothness if you want to decrease artifacts. Personally I don't mind losing a little bit of smoothness, as long as there's very little artifacts.
What CPU and GPU do you have? Not sure if my settings will work on your PC, but I linked them below.
I have a 4790K @ 4.6Ghz and a GTX 1070.
I have a less powerful htpc but I use totally different settings but am pretty satisfied with it. I was wondering if I could improve some more. Here are my settings.
Frames interpolation: 1.5m
SVP shader: 23. Complicated
Artifacts masking: Strong
Motion vectors precision: Half pixel
Motion vectors grid: 8 px. Small 0
Decrease grid step: By two with global refinement
Search radius: Large
Wide search: Strongest
Width of top coarse level: Large
I'm watching 1080p material. And I'am having a hard time interpreting what settings are making the interpolation better without really understanding them technically. It's not like the higher the settings the better.
Where do I go wrong with the above settings?
Ahhhh, never would have thought of that. I'm gonna check it out this evening. Thanks for the reply, been looking everywhere to solve this.
I'm watching a tv series but I can't get SVP to actually execute frame interpolation. Here's the data of the video files.
Video
ID : 1
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : High@L4.1
Format settings : CABAC / 4 Ref Frames
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, RefFrames : 4 frames
Codec ID : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
Duration : 58 min 57 s
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 22.9 Mb/s
Maximum bit rate : 33.0 Mb/s
Width : 1 920 pixels
Height : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate mode : Constant
Frame rate : 25.000 FPS
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : MBAFF
Scan type, store method : Interleaved fields
Scan order : Top Field First
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.441
Stream size : 9.42 GiB (92%)
Default : No
Forced : No
SVP is running at 50fps. So I would say that frames are interpolated to make 50fps out of 25fps, but SVP shows no activity at all. I've been altering many settings, to no avail. See attached file for my LAV video decoder settings. Should be good, but I've experimented with several settings for hardware decoder but nothing changes.
For the record, with normal 24fps files SVP works great. Just for these files SVP doesn't seem to kick in no matter what settings I change. So clearly I'm missing something. What I can make of it is that the video is seen as interlaced and somewhere in the chain it's deinterlaced to 50fps (despite my LAV setting for film mode) so SVP can't interpolate any frames. But I have no clue where I can change settings for this. I'm using MPC-HC 64-bit, Madvr and LAV filters.
Can anyone help me out here?
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Are there any means add the blackframes via GPU (shader) ?Obviously we CAN do this but I'm still not really convinced it's useful for anyone except you.
Old discussion but with OLED having problems with motion blur/judder BFI might be a nice addition to SVP, just as an option pleople can switch on or off.
Did you check if GPU acceleration in SVP is turned on?
Appplication settings -> GPU acceleration
Happened to me a couple of times that all of a sudden the GPU acceleration was turned off and videos started to stutter tremendously.
Unless it's in 10bit or you're using mpv, the bitrate doesn't matter for H264 video as that can be hardware decoded on any GPU made in the last 10 years without issue.
And with that hardware decoding I wouldn't be suprised if you could even disable your i7's overclock and you'd still be fine - heck my own Xeon locked at its turbo clock of 3.2GHz combined with H264 hardware decoding almost gets me there when using your exact settings - around 80% of the time it's running at 1.0x SVP index while it's only at 0.9x or so for the other 20% in certain scenes that are apparently more demanding (it's not clear why however as the entire test video is full of motion).
If you had a 32 core/64 thread AMD threadripper cpu, what settings would you try? What would make SVP's result better than what you have now?
Most of the time I'm running 25-30 mbps H264 24fps video @ 60 fps and that seems to go well with the above settings. But I have to admit that for quite some settings I don't know what's better. The user manual isn't really clear on some points as well. Like any SVP user I'm looking for the ideal settings that my cpu and gpu can handle. Is there a guide somewhere to do this step by step?
@Nintendo Maniac 64
What do you think of these settings for 1080p @ 60fps? Running on an i7 2600K @ 4GHz with an GTX970. Seems to do well, almost no visible artifacting.
I wonder if a Ryzen 1600 would be sufficient or whether it would be helpful to raise the Ghz (Ryzen 1600x) or number of cores (Ryzen 1700). I'd like to go for the non-X Versions to keep the TDP/noise in the HTPC low if that's possible.
AMD Ryzen 7 is recommended (https://www.svp-team.com/wiki/Manual:SV … quirements), so that means a 2700, 2700X or 1800X. But my experience with SVP is that more cores and faster cores are always better. Better have everything run on 50% with better cpu than on 75% on worse cpu.
I'll be waiting for HDMI 2.1 (60+ Hz, variable framerate and more) next year but then I'm gonna make a similar build (with extra GPU for HDMI 2.1). Lots of nice cpu's are coming out soon from Intel (8 core/16 threads for consumers). And next year Ryzen2 with prolly 12 cores and 24 threads. That would be great for a 4K machine.
Also how much GPU power is needed for that? In Nvidia terms GTX 1060? 1070? Or AMD 560/570/580? Or Vega?
An GTX1050 is sufficient but if you're using the GPU in MadVR and other uses then you could use a faster one.
> SVP @4K CPU load is less than 30%
let's say "50%" (at the highest "auto" settings and Ryzen 8-cores at 3.4 GHz), 8-bit video
Ok, that sounds great but......what about 10bit video and HDR? Both will inevitably become part of mainstream videos. How much more firepower do I need to be able to handle 10bit and/or HDR too when it becomes mainstream/available?
Ryzen 7 8-cores, MPC-HC 64-bit - SVP @4K CPU load is less than 30%
Thnx, much better than I expected. So more than 8 cores is not going to be needed. Then I don't have to look at the socket 2066 platform or other more exotic and expensive platforms.
What can be said about SVP efficiency between Intel and AMD CPU's? Which one is doing SVP better per core?
I don't care about HDR so much yet, but 4K @ 60fps will be my next step from the 1080p @ 60fps that I have now. Need a new tv for that but I'm taking my time to put all the puzzle pieces together. After all, it's a lot of money that's involved. So, when the time comes I want to switch my Intel i7 2700K (doing 1080p @ 60fps just fine with some tuning) for a CPU that can do the 4K @ 60fps job in an equal matter. So far it's unclear to me what CPU I need to perform in the same way als my 2700K but then in 4K. Do I need 4 times the firepower or makes H265 it easier for the CPU? Is Intel or AMD Ryzen doing the job better per core? How many cores will be needed? I read on the site that the recommended hardware requirements say that an Intel i7 with 6 cores or a AMD Ryzen with 8 cores. Does that mean they perform equal? Is 6 Intel cores equal to 8 Ryzen cores in performance when it comes to SVP? In that case Intel cores seem to be more efficient for SVP. I would go the Intel way then and maybe even invest in a socket 2066 system.
I hope someone can clear things up for me? Thanks in advance.
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