2,476 Reply by dawkinscm (edited by dawkinscm 23-12-2025 19:46:38)

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oriento wrote:

a 5090 cannot do 120fps for 4k

Yes it can, yes it does, can actually go way beyond that and in 3D too. But maybe SVP is lying to me.

oriento wrote:

a 5090 cannot do 120fps for 4k

edit: i have tested right now, and rife 4.25v2 gives me 85fps at transcoding 4k with my 5090

Same here. But I'm not using Rife which is what I've been saying every post for the past week including the one below I posted just yesterday:

dawkinscm wrote:

Rife 26 heavy is stuck at around 80fps although I haven't pushed it recently. Don't worry about v2 models, especially with a 5090.

2,477 Reply by oriento

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sorry, I misunderstood you, I thought you said him to configure 120hz at real time

2,478 Reply by dawkinscm (edited by dawkinscm 23-12-2025 21:16:27)

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oriento wrote:

sorry, I misunderstood you, I thought you said him to configure 120hz at real time

Yes SVP real time at 120 is no problem without Rife. I know SVP without Rife can run at even 240fps because I have done it. But with Rife 25+ SVP tops out at around 80fps.

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Why doesn't SVP update the AI Model? The latest I have on there is 4.18. I don't see 4.25.

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kellykline wrote:

Why doesn't SVP update the AI Model? The latest I have on there is 4.18. I don't see 4.25.

Download and add manually those that you want to use.

It's about 2.5GB of RIFE and v2 models from 2023 and 2024 and most of them many of us never used.
There are almost no updates recently.
Each models needs to be computers before use for particular resolution (take up to coople of minutes each), this adds extra GBs.
Most users use only a few of them based of HW specification and video watched (Anime vs movies vs sport) and their liking.
This is not on-size-fits-all.

From my perspective, it doesn't make much sense to implement RIFE models management in SVP, see the reasons above.

2,481 Reply by dawkinscm (edited by dawkinscm 26-12-2025 21:14:21)

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kellykline wrote:

Why doesn't SVP update the AI Model? The latest I have on there is 4.18. I don't see 4.25.

I no longer user RIFE but 4.18 is a good model to use because it has many of the benefits of RIFE without needed a beefy GPU like a 4080. I wouldn't recommend 4.25 for anything less than maybe a 4070.

2,482 Reply by dawkinscm (edited by dawkinscm 27-12-2025 04:48:23)

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Recently I noticed that setting my TV display refresh rate to 120Hz helps in reducing the workload when running at 120fps. Obvious I know. But what it means is that SVP only needs to perform a gentle smoothing operation which is well within it's capabilities and nvof is not needed either. For confirmation I tried running without SVP at 120hz and the jerkiness came back. Then I tried mvp interpolation on my PC and same thing happened. So SVP is definitely working and tweaked a little I see all the smoothness of RIFE but none of the obvious artifacts or occlusion errors.

Using the SVP "Automatic" profile and performance slider moved all the way across to "Higher Quality" I got this running at 70% on my integrated GPU. But some of the processing was still leaking into my 50 series so maybe it would be running at around 95% without it. The easiest option would be to set the refresh rate to the highest matching SVP rate, rerun SVP "Assess System Performance". I've tweaked it further to increase smoothness and remove all artifacts (so far). I don't think this is if this is TV model dependent because I'm using VR so any extra TV processing is probably lost.

P.S. On PC, when matching refresh rates, using Vulkan is the smoothest providing RIFE like fluidity with basic SVP settings. But depending on the config, some pixelation may occur when using Nvidia cards.

2,483 Reply by raider10 (edited by raider10 Today 18:56:51)

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oriento wrote:

a 5090 cannot do 120fps for 4k

edit: i have tested right now, and rife 4.25v2 gives me 85fps at transcoding 4k with my 5090


I have an RTX 5080 but I can't get past 32 or 35 fps. Do you have any special settings? Have you changed anything to make it run faster?

I know I won't reach 80 or 90 fps, but I'm aiming for at least 50 or 60 fps for transcoding. Right now, almost everything takes double the video duration to finish, and the card is maxing out at 320W.

Thanks

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2,484 Reply by dawkinscm (edited by dawkinscm Today 18:29:48)

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raider10 wrote:
oriento wrote:

a 5090 cannot do 120fps for 4k

edit: i have tested right now, and rife 4.25v2 gives me 85fps at transcoding 4k with my 5090


I have an RTX 5080 but I can't get past 32 or 35 fps. Do you have any special settings? Have you changed anything to make it run faster?

I know I won't reach 80 or 90 fps, but I'm aiming for at least 50 or 60 fps for transcoding. Right now, almost everything takes double the video duration to finish, and the card is maxing out at 320W.

Thanks

With Rife v4.25 an RTX 4080 does 60fps in real time using about 90% GPU. So you shouldn't be struggling with a 5080.  I'm not sure but I assume RIFE is still smoother than SVP at 60fps But if you have a 120fps TV then you might be better off not using RIFE for the reasons I mention above.

2,485 Reply by raider10

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I really don't understand what could be wrong, transcoding won't go past 35 fps. This afternoon I did a clean install of SVP; I only kept the vsmlrt file where I had tweaked some settings for Nvidia.

I hope someone can help (I'm transcoding full videos to save and watch later, not for real-time playback, though I assume that makes no difference).

2,486 Reply by oriento

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try video x 2 instead of x2.5

2,487 Reply by dawkinscm

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raider10 wrote:

I really don't understand what could be wrong, transcoding won't go past 35 fps. This afternoon I did a clean install of SVP; I only kept the vsmlrt file where I had tweaked some settings for Nvidia.

I hope someone can help (I'm transcoding full videos to save and watch later, not for real-time playback, though I assume that makes no difference).

I wouldn't tweak vsmlrt unless you know what you are doing. I recommend going back to the original one. Also you might as well try real time to see if you can hit 60fps. If you can't then it's something else you are doing. If you can, then it's your transcoding config.

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47fps 2X

2,489 Reply by Chainik

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and what is the GPU load?

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possible bottlenecks:
- memory bandwidth (dual channel?)
- actual PCI-E mode for the GPU (can be 1x in some cases)

2,490 Reply by raider10 (edited by raider10 Today 22:33:29)

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Everything looks correct: memory is in dual channel, PCIe 4.0 is OK. No issues in games or under extreme load in DaVinci. This is odd, though: the GPU is at 99% usage, drawing 300-320W. CPU 45%. i5 12400, 32GB RAM.
Anyway... no big deal. It might be something weird, but it’s always worked like this for me. It’s nothing new.

2,491 Reply by dawkinscm (edited by dawkinscm Today 22:42:10)

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raider10 wrote:

Everything looks correct: memory is in dual channel, PCIe 4.0 is OK. No issues in games or under extreme load in DaVinci. This is odd, though: the GPU is at 99% usage, drawing 300-320W. CPU 45%. i5 12400, 32GB RAM.
Anyway... no big deal. It might be something weird, but it’s always worked like this for me. It’s nothing new.

You're right, this is odd. On the 4080 I get 99% because I'm using VR. Turn off VR then GPU goes down to 90%. The 5080 has more Cuda cores, higher base and boost frequencies and more memory bandwidth. The only thing I can think of is if somehow you have run out of PCIE lanes because of a motherboard limit. I would suggest trying the normal Rife version and not the v2 version just in case.