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SmoothVideo Project → Using SVP → DVD menu artifacts
Yes Root / Title Menu DVD driving me nuts !!
When loading dVd through official channel i.e CTRL+D = directory or Open Disc i always get stuck 9 out of 10 Tries ... YES LITTERALLY 9 out of 10 times it FAiLS to play Nice 
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EVEN WHILE SVP IS DISABLE PRIOR TO MPC launch ...
Example: ↓ 
Either an FFDshow issue in the first place or SVP issue... dunno if it woud matter to try out FFDshow builds one by one back to revision 2xx or not !!!
Sigh,...
Metagondria
Where your DVD can be downloaded?
Metagondria
Where your DVD can be downloaded?
SerIOUs...ly?
Do u expect from me i start to upload an whole dvd-9 disk from proximately 8+GB 
!!!!!!
I have showed u clearly the biggest and meanest issue by that pictar up ↑ there !!
This BLACK SCREEN IS ALWAY'S HAPPENING ON EPISODE DVD DISCS , and very seldom on movie discs ...!!!
That ↑ black screen is pulling the last of my mohican hairs out
→ FFdshow = NOSHOW ←... seriousleee...
Metagondria
Upload this DVD with menu only if you can.
I can't help you with your problem without this video source. Picture is not enough for issue solving.
Metagondria
Do u expect from me i start to upload an whole dvd-9 disk from proximately 8+GB
i can upload 8GB disk in ~20 minutes
uhuh.. thats alright.. mkay.. we have deal.. u do the upload mkay...
just upload any dvd disc from the tv serie voyager (pal here) or ntsc , the region will probebly make no difference..
And especialy the language menu is an nuincance ...
So.. MAG79 .. Chains.. will upload it in just 20 min .. woud u believe that
Me doing it .. woud take probebly errm....well lets see... atleast an couple hours or so... 
ok, MAG79 and something else... u have the picture for one.. and iam telling you.. it happends every time at the language menu... uhuh..
ermm.. and if chains dont have the disc or wont upload it..i
I can compress the disk to dvd 5 and remove the episodes uhuh .. that woud do the trikc
aS its only the menus u need to see at work ehh.. not the episode.. that woud make an difference of lets say... 8 + Gigantic bytes 
Also, it doesn do it all the time.. so weird.. sometimes i get to see the menu just fine like 10/10 while next i cant see anything on 9/10 attempts !!!
so...
I can tell u when i just use mpc-hc , i.e no external filters no svp no nothing... just mpc the menus play all nice .. not even blue sticky boxes over the menu buttons and so on and on...
I'll keep u posted if anything has changed...
Metagondria
any dvd disc
I have some DVD. But I don't need it. I need your DVD with your "GRRR".
UPdate (important) : i won't burden chains with the task that is bestowed upon me 
..
So... in an nutshell. I have stripped the movie disc leaving just the menus intact as per request, and i have done just that..
I have wrapped the package in sparkling gift paper for upload .. here you are → https://www.mediafire.com/?61xp6ika6fxv1d8
But even so... the package wrapped wheighs only 104 MB ... package unwrapped can wheigh easily twice as much...inlike 180+MB or so..
Just an friendly word of caution .. so you dont run out of space unexpectedly !!!
i guess. best things comes in small packages eehhh
Now MAG79, iam curious how u will solve this puzzle... and please.. dont fall for it.. cuz the menu can play nice and show you what u want to see for an loong time.. and SUdden BOOM → black sCreen of death ← scenario !!
So, HEED MY WORDS.. → dont be fooled for a second ...
And you may press the following keys allot .. CTRL+C... CTRL+D and again.. CTRL+C , CTRL+D and ... well.. u got the big pictar i gather..
Succes my benevolent developer
I await ur findings..
cherriepoppers,
metagondria
Metagondria
Good. I will look at this DVD this evening.
Metagondria
Good. I will look at this DVD this evening.
Thats all i need to read from ya (metagondria is holding fingers acrossed..).
cherriepoppers,
MPC-HC can play this DVD perfectly as WinDVD if one make these setup:
1. Turn off HW Deinterlace in LAV Video Decoder. It causes disappear of labels and chapter numbers.
2. Disable ffdShow load when playing. It causes color bars over selected regions.
These changes makes impossible SVP use with such DVDs. I think we need to search another ffdShow version without color bars. And I need at least one chapter at this DVD to teach SVP to differ animated menu from real play. It can be used to make auto-disable smoothing option on DVD menus.
MPC-HC can play this DVD perfectly as WinDVD if one make these setup:
1. Turn off HW Deinterlace in LAV Video Decoder. It causes disappear of labels and chapter numbers.
2. Disable ffdShow load when playing. It causes color bars over selected regions.These changes makes impossible SVP use with such DVDs. I think we need to search another ffdShow version without color bars. And I need at least one chapter at this DVD to teach SVP to differ animated menu from real play. It can be used to make auto-disable smoothing option on DVD menus.
First off, turning off/on HW deinterlacing doesnt make ANy DIFFERENCE AT ALL i repeat TURNING OFF HW dEinterlacing DOES NOT MAKE ANY difference at all maggie .. i have tested that with all sorts of different settings in Lav video decoder ..
Settings such as collor output, decoding, yes and even Deinterlacing → MODE set to Progressive = Disabled !!!!!
Tis all of no USE !!! What DOES MAKE AN DIFFERENCE and i have told u that T0_0 before , is when i use MPC-HC whitout the bells and whistles such as using MPC+FFdshow+SVP in tandem ..
Only and the lonely when i JUST USE MPC-HC ALONE then i dont experience any menu navigation headaches !!!
Again, lIke i have mentioned BEFORE.. indeed → Windvd ← which i have used many many years before i start to use mpc-hc for dvd playback NEVER EVER EVARRr gave me problems with menu's or navigation !! l
And ofcourse MPC play nice too.. i have mentioned that too didnt i... BUT and i have told tO_o , THAT THAT PESKY → FFDShow ← is = NOshow and IS causing all of this in the first place !!!!
Serious... leee !!!
I did found out all those pointers myself you gave me maggie !!!!!?!?
But the thing is , if i can't use FFDshow for video playback (just to workarround that pesky menu issue) I CANNOT USE SVP ASWELLL !!!!!! AS IN SVP ONLY Works WITH FFdshow for crying out LOUD !!!!
You SEE the problem up ↑ there 
to which i kind of hoped u had an answer for !!!
Ah.. nuts....
This's the last warning regarding your "writing style". Thanks for understanding.
Metagondria
I did found out all those pointers myself
Good. My post confirms your pointers.
I need at least one chapter at this DVD to teach SVP to differ animated menu from real play
Hey, Metaman, you really don't need to cry so loud here.
And please use full nick names next time - it's as easy as clicking "quick quote" link.This's the last warning regarding your "writing style". Thanks for understanding.
Second, i only wish remembering some one's nick wos as easy as pushing an button and making quotes...
That said, quotes are copy/past automatically , so i dont have to spellcheck the nicks.
Iam bad at remembering names so i choose the lesser of the two evils and make the best out of it by complementing 
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So, dont think any more of it!!
As for the warning!!
Did i honestly offended u by writing in bold or italic sir/mam?
Wow, ur easily offended i gather... I have used bold/italic to emphasize something to make it clear to you that you are running in circles here going nowhere fast regarding the problem i have described about ffdshow..
Yes, isnt that what those write styles are for anyway??? To make a point / statement ?
This not as if i called you or anyboddy else an "FAT BASTARD" did i ???
I mean, what nonesense is this all of a sudden !!
Chainik
Good. My post confirms your pointers.
I need at least one chapter at this DVD to teach SVP to differ animated menu from real play
Meaning, i dont need you to confirm that which iam very well are aware off !!
.Cuz it seems no good deed goes unpunished
but thanks anyway
cherriepoopers,
Metagondria
i expected atleast an work arround or sollution to my problem you know
You are wrong. I help only if I want it. I need your assistance to continue.
I need at least one chapter at this DVD to teach SVP to differ animated menu from real play
DVD menu + one (first) short chapter
Firstly, i"ll try to be as brief as possible
We need respect. But I don't see it.
And you alway's had my respect and still have ! Else i woudnt be fort comming and shared tons of video material to help u perfect ur project.
I even have donated funds → even before i have thoroughly tested this piece of software i might add!
So, i just don't see the connection between respect and a nick misspelled or my "detailed write style" and just ← that!!
Maybe u need glasses , A PINK and a → colorFULL one too while ur at it..
This either that ↑ or take an CHILL PILL i'dd say..
Just an friendly word of advice .. → I MEAN NO HARM NOR DISRESPECT ←
It is first of all simple sentences without flood. Your messages are full of flood. I ask you to stop flood and offtopic.
We do not need to know your opinion or your thoughts. Just issue description and facts.
U call it flood , i call it beeing specific ...
I just want to be as specific as possible here so that we have an mutual understand.. Can i yes? 
Btw, you have had ur say.. so its only fair i have my say about things too. wheiter u like it or not..
i expected atleast an work arround or sollution to my problem you know
You are wrong. I help only if I want it. I need your assistance to continue.I need at least one chapter at this DVD to teach SVP to differ animated menu from real play
DVD menu + one (first) short chapter
Well on that part we AGREE, only do whatever and whenever u like in life i alway's say.
Only thing is, i wish it wos THAT ↑ EASY..
But then again, i didnt want to spent hours re-authoring / uploading dvd's and writing/flooding → detailed post about it too.. Yet i did it anyway..
Perhaps out of → respect ← for this project and the ppl behind it maybe. ... just maybe
Oh .. before i forget..
An happy 2014 ..
Metagondria
i didnt want to spent hours re-authoring / uploading dvd's and writing/flooding
OK. Let it be.
Hello magic79,
I don't like to hold an grudge.
So i suggest to put our differences aside an let bygones be bygones shall we ..
As per request, i have re-authored the animation menu + 1 chapter like u requested.. 
I have made it easy for you and disabled all but 1 button from the main episode menu.
Meaning, you only can pick only 1 button which is the right episode with that chapter i have stored for u
Here ↓ you are.. Knock yourself out
https://www.mediafire.com/?k3jwtk9nb384abs
p.s: keep me posted about ur findings .. wheiter it is bad or good that is of no importance to me
cherriepOOpers,
magic79
Thank you for the file. I will look at it in due time.
I found version ffdShow that works without menu items high lightening bug. It is rev.2694 (or 2699 but not NV12 at input). It was made 5 years ago.
All newer versions of ffdShow have this high lightening bug. I think it is because of commit #2711:
Enable subpicture input pin even if "DVD decoding" is disabled. This fixes (part of?) YV12 decoding plus DVD menu high light issue.
But SVP supports ffdShow rev.3616 and newer. So SVP is incompatible with such old version of ffdShow.
I recommend to use WinDVD when you watching DVD. It has the best quality of smoothing of DVD. And no problem with DVD menu.
You need WinDVD 2010 version or older with old good 'Trimension All2HD' technology. Don't use WinDVD 11. It has worst smoothing technology 'Motion streamliner' I have ever seen.
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SmoothVideo Project → Using SVP → DVD menu artifacts
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