Topic: SVP inbetween was inharmonious under certain circumstance

two problem:
the first one:
Please see the screen shot first!
2 images:without_SVP.jpg & with_SVP.jpg

The premise condition that occurs in:
1. high contrast images
2. high speed images
3. produced fluid of inbetween

the 2nd one:
there would be a picture pause when svpMgr.exe detected the variable frame rate and the variable frame rate repair activated

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Re: SVP inbetween was inharmonious under certain circumstance

aluo
the first one:
It is artifacts.
If you want to remove double edges then use SVP-shaders 1 and 2.
If you want less waves artifacts then select bigger grid step in profile window.

the 2nd one:
Sorry. I don't understand. Where is the picture? And what the problem?

Re: SVP inbetween was inharmonious under certain circumstance

MAG79 wrote:

aluo
the first one:
It is artifacts.
If you want to remove double edges then use SVP-shaders 1 and 2.
If you want less waves artifacts then select bigger grid step in profile window.

the 2nd one:
Sorry. I don't understand. Where is the picture? And what the problem?

2nd:
picture pause, like that one:
when variable frame rate was detected,  frames would pause 0.x seconds.
screenshot:
When the first time to detect the changes frame rate,then OSD shown bottom of pause.jpg
when next time,  OSD shown the upper part of the pause.jpg
But one thing is the same, it is frame pause...

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pause.jpg 102.98 kb, 525 downloads since 2013-11-05 

Re: SVP inbetween was inharmonious under certain circumstance

aluo
I see. You want unvisible magrin of smoothing mode change. It is impossible for now.
Good solution is to watch anime at constant value of target framerate setting in profile settings window.
Cause is in this anime that has variable framerate.

BTW. If you want you can to know what peaces of this anime have different framerates. And what framerates.
For mkv use Haali mkv2vfr tool. For MP4 use MPEG4ip mp4dump tool. More info see here: VFR.

5 (edited by aluo 14-12-2013 16:41:10)

Re: SVP inbetween was inharmonious under certain circumstance

MAG79 wrote:

aluo
I see. You want unvisible magrin of smoothing mode change. It is impossible for now.
Good solution is to watch anime at constant value of target framerate setting in profile settings window.
Cause is in this anime that has variable framerate.

BTW. If you want you can to know what peaces of this anime have different framerates. And what framerates.
For mkv use Haali mkv2vfr tool. For MP4 use MPEG4ip mp4dump tool. More info see here: VFR.

the first question:
I had tried to change the shader of the svp option,but still not ideal
Please compare the following a few screenshot
source-upper
Inbetween:svp-shader_1 & svp-shader_23
source-next

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source_upper.jpg 100.07 kb, 233 downloads since 2013-12-14 

svp-shader_1.jpg, 118.52 kb, 687 x 466
svp-shader_1.jpg 118.52 kb, 533 downloads since 2013-12-14 

svp-shader_23.jpg, 119.58 kb, 706 x 482
svp-shader_23.jpg 119.58 kb, 483 downloads since 2013-12-14 

6 (edited by aluo 14-12-2013 17:04:18)

Re: SVP inbetween was inharmonious under certain circumstance

In some extreme cases, inbetween makes the picture to get worse.
you can see others samples:
sample_svp
sample_source

The chaotic frame often happens in high speed and high contrast.
I think it could be necessary to adjust the existing algorithms to make insert frame looks more natural.
Thank you!
                                ----------an amateurs from China smile

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sample_svp.jpg 159.64 kb, 245 downloads since 2013-12-14 

source_next.jpg 99.54 kb, 218 downloads since 2013-12-14 

Re: SVP inbetween was inharmonious under certain circumstance

aluo
http://www.svp-team.com/wiki/Watching_anime
http://www.svp-team.com/w/images/6/68/Anime-4.png

Re: SVP inbetween was inharmonious under certain circumstance

genius, it works much better
PRACTICALLY PERFECT!

I watch the anime video of above screenshot once more,in yuour recommended anime mode

in this mode, inbetween was using bending instead of mixed
it is really much better!
Because the inbetween are generated by the algorithm, in other words "it is speculative"

If svp could be appropriate to reducing the sharpness and contrast in adding inbetween of the anemi, then continuous frame could appear more natural
Just in my opinion
I'm sorry to ask questions without doing enough homework.
Thank you!