Topic: What videocard to choose for SVP?

I know with the new release of SVP that Open GL 4.2 might play a role
with future upgrades of video card to get maximun performance at 60 fps
playback. Is the 7770 GPU  enough for smooth playback with a quadcore?

From what I can tell the 6570(open GL 4.1) starts to puke out with preferred settings
on my system 80-90% GPU usage.

In short since you guy's are in the know what GPU and why?

Re: What videocard to choose for SVP?

SVP uses OpenCL!

Re: What videocard to choose for SVP?

greg1292
OpenGL is not used.
NightFox is right. You need OpenCL compatible video adapter.

Is the 7770 GPU  enough for smooth playback with a quadcore?
6670 is more than twice time better then it is needed. See GPU_Compatibility.

4 (edited by greg1292 22-02-2012 02:07:15)

Re: What videocard to choose for SVP?

Thanks Mag long day at work sad I read it wrong CL instead of GL. I played around and with
MPHC 4075AVX with CL disabled GPU is 84% and CPU 55% with good 1080P playback.


Last processed file parameters:
Filename: The.Three.Musketeers.2011.1080p.MKV.x264.AC3.DTS.NL.Subs.mkv
Frame size and frame rate: 1920x816 pixels, 23.976 fps

Detected monitor parameters
Screen size and refresh rate: 1920x1080 pixels, 59.94 Hz

Video smoothing info
Smooth factor: 5:2
Resulting video frame rate: 59.94 fps

Current detected profile: 1920x1080@24

Profile settings of video processing
[ExMethod=MSmoothFps_Complex]    Smoothness improvement: Advanced
[ExAlgo=23]            SVP-shader: 23. Complex
[ExMulti=5:2:2m2]        Framerate change: 24->60 2m (1.5x)
[ExMiniCount=1:1]        Interpolated frames size: Full size
[ExRad=2p]            Search radius: 2 pixels
[ExSearch=4]            Search type: Hexagon
[ExPel=2]            Motion estimation accuracy: To half-pixel
[ExRecalc=0]            Recalculation of vectors: Do not recalculate
[ExBlockSize=16x16]        Blocks size: 16x16 pixels
[ExOverlap=0]            Blocks overlapping: No overlap
[ExMl=80]            Contour artifacts suppression: Normal
[ExSadml=100]            Bad areas artifacts suppression: Normal
[ExSadgamma=2]            Bad areas artifacts mask: Sharp
[ExBlend=true]            Processing of scene change: Frame blending
[ExDwnResize=0]            Reduce resolution: Do not reduce
[ExConvertFps=false]        Frame blending to screen refresh-rate:false

Settings by menu
[svp_libflowgpu=0]        GPU-acceleration (OpenCL): false
[ExTreads=0]            Number of threads: 15
[Borderlight=0]            Light at black borders: false
[ExStretch=0]            Frame stretch: Do not stretch
[ExCrop=-1]            Cropping: Do not crop
[VDelay=0]            Video delay: 0 ms
[ExDemo=0]            Demonstration mode: false
[ExTearingTest=0]        Tearing test: false
[EFrameDoubling=0]        Emergency framedoubling: false
[StopSmoothDelayOnRewind=1]    Smooth on rewind: Turn off by 1 sec

When I enable CL 99% GPU and CPU 30% so with this info I do need to upgrade my video card from the AMD 6570 to at least the 6670? From turning CL on and off there is a lot better
PQ with CL on. Is my thinking sound in a video card upgrade?

I really like what MPHC is doing and there must be some serious GPU manipulation going
on with the code.

Re: What videocard to choose for SVP?

greg1292
MPHC 4075AVX with CL disabled GPU is 84%
So high GPU-load may be because of DXVA-decode with LAV decoder, madVR renderer or EVR renderer with heavy pixel shaders enabled (sharpen complex 2, for example).

Your results of SVPmark Synthetic GPU subtests are: "362|859|539".

They are: system -> GPU transfer (SG), GPU -> system transfer (GS) and GPU-calculations (Cal). See the table (Thnx to Noweol):

http://www.svp-team.com/forum/misc.php?item=834

originally posted here (in Russian)

Table was calculating for GPU use by SVP only with "good 60fps subtest" profile (13-th SVP-shader, 5:2, hpel, 4 px, Hexagon, 16x16, 0.25).
If you can do GPU load 0% when SVP GPU is off then your results are good enough for FullHD (FHD) at 60 fps (5:2).

You can choose any video adapter by comparing this three values for your desired resolution and FPS in SVPmark online results database.

Re: What videocard to choose for SVP?

You are right about the shader issue in MPHC with 32 point float GPU spikes to 92-98%  at 16 point float 72%
which play's back 1080p with your above settings fine. The numbers makes sense now with the chart.

Re: What videocard to choose for SVP?

After some research I decided to get a little more GPU horsepower so I can max out 1080p
video and game play and heat my home  big_smile theater room in the winter.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … 6814130759

Re: What videocard to choose for SVP?

greg1292
GTX 480 is a good video card for SVP cool

9 (edited by greg1292 28-02-2012 17:21:52)

Re: What videocard to choose for SVP?

I would think SVP(correct me if wrong? like games will use more and more GPU than CPU
in the future. MPHC uses a ton of shaders and the results to me
are amazing so the future is bright indeed.

Just received the card and madvr .81 works well. On the wiki there should be a minimum
Amd or Nvidia gpu like Amd 6670 and above and Nvidia GT-460 but more is alway's better?.

Re: What videocard to choose for SVP?

219.00 NOW! Going sli and got the gaming bug. I am very happy with the results
with SVP. Thanks

Re: What videocard to choose for SVP?

greg1292
219.00 !?!? hmm
What is it?

Re: What videocard to choose for SVP?

Sorry mag79 same as link above from newegg. Fx4100 set to OC 4.4 and 12 theads in SVP give me these results tongue


Test summary
-----------------------
  Date: 2012-02-22T22:45:48
  CPU:  AMD FX-4100 Quad-Core @4419 MHz [4 threads]
  GPU:  NVIDIA GeForce GTX 480 [ver.295.73]
  Mode: FHD + GPU [12 threads]

Overall scores
-----------------------
  Synthetic CPU:                  MC1072
  Synthetic GPU:                  MG1938
  Real-life:                      N/A

Details: synthetic
-----------------------
  CPU: compose (single-threaded): 399
  CPU: compose (multi-threaded):  1202
  CPU: search (single-threaded):  394
  CPU: search (multi-threaded):   969
  GPU: system -> GPU transfer:    843
  GPU: GPU -> system transfer:    977
  GPU: calculations:              1382
  GPU: total score:               4501

Details: real-life /FHD
-----------------------
  decode video:                   7.66x (183.9 fps)
  48 fps - vectors search:        N/A
  60 fps - frame composition:     2.06x (123.6 fps)
  48 fps - [SVP] fastest:         3.27x (157.2 fps)
  48 fps - [SVP] simple 1:        2.39x (114.7 fps)
  60 fps - [SVP] good:            1.28x (76.5 fps)
  60 fps - [SVP] high:            1.01x (60.5 fps)
  60 fps - [SVP] highest:         N/A
  72 fps - [SVP] simple 2:        2.27x (163.4 fps)

Not bad for a 100.00 processor and a good video card soon to be 2 wink

Re: What videocard to choose for SVP?

greg1292
Oh! I understood. You are telling about the price. wink

48 fps - vectors search:        N/A

60 fps - [SVP] highest:         N/A

It is a bug. Why "N/A"? hmm

14 (edited by greg1292 02-03-2012 22:50:06)

Re: What videocard to choose for SVP?

36.7V and 26.7 highest unclicked some options to check on best threading for cpu and graphics card.

Re: What videocard to choose for SVP?

greg1292
Script is offtopic in the thread about graphic card. May be you can find something interesting there:
Makens PotPlayer and SVP Guide

Re: What videocard to choose for SVP?

Sorry corrected post.

Re: What videocard to choose for SVP?

Just an observation I had to put back the ATI 6570 and the picture let's just
less than inspiring sad  I had to order a larger power supply for the SLI 480 setup
and thought I would revisit the past. In short the GTX 480 makes one heck of a
difference. Night and day would be the words I am looking for!

Re: What videocard to choose for SVP?

greg1292
I don't understand what are you talking about.
Single GTX 480 is good enough for SVP.

Re: What videocard to choose for SVP?

greg1292
what do you mean with "less than inspiring"?  hmm slower / worse picture ?
if dxva is in use then there're a lot of picture processing options in NV/AMD video drivers for example

20 (edited by greg1292 07-03-2012 04:26:43)

Re: What videocard to choose for SVP?

I just installed the SLI 480's tonight and the picture is awesome in SLI with sli 32xQ CSAA and SLI 16X supersampling. I just meant that the ATI 6550 was
graphically challenged and Prefer madVr,Lav Cuvid with the GTX 480 setup.
In short SVP 3.06 is amazing.

Tried doing a benchmark with 3.3 and can only use one card for testing but madVr uses both with LAV Decoder.

Re: What videocard to choose for SVP?

I am liking 3.1 alot has some quirks and bugs but have worked thru them and am achieving better
results then 3.06 so for that I thank you at SVP smile
I thought I was going to need a new processor but was able to coax out Max smoothness,12 don't remember off hand default was
14. Did notice a 7% increase in gpu usuage as each card reports 40% usuage, I do have madvr maxed out settings wise.

I also had the increased memory problem at first but uninstalled everything and did the full install and the problem righted it's self
and just to be sure unchecked everything in MPHC. Noticed Lav Decoder defaulted to DXVA2 copy back and switched to Cuvid.

All in all a nice improvement and for the most part Silkey Smooth Player and artifacts are all but gone! Job well done cool

Re: What videocard to choose for SVP?

ADAPTIVE
21.SIMPLE
TO SCREEN REFRESH RATE
24PX.LARGE
DISABLED
HALF PIXEL
STRONGEST
DISABLED
REPEAT FRAME
TO SCREEN REFRESH RATE

1080P NO OTHER WORDS BUT WOW cool  cool  cool  cool  cool

Thanks SVP for a job well done and picture quality  amazing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Re: What videocard to choose for SVP?

Nice to see it big_smile

Re: What videocard to choose for SVP?

mag79 I have questions concerning processors. Since I have been gaming I know need more
processor power. For the money which Amd or intel and is hyperthreading important with SVP.
Was thinking of I2500K and dumping AMD.

Re: What videocard to choose for SVP?

stock i5-2500k ~= FX 6100
stock i7-2600k ~= FX 8150

2600k is faster than 2500k by ~25%