Topic: Does one configure artifact removal/masking in both SVP and madVR?

Greetings reader,

I merely need to know whether it is necessary to configure artifact removal in both madVR and SVP, or
would configuring removal in only one of either suffice? I have the option to "mask" artifacts in SVP, whereas
I have the option to "reduce" them (banding & ringing) in madVR.

As always, any helpful responses are appreciated.

Take care,

Jude

2 (edited by brucethemoose 18-06-2017 01:04:07)

Re: Does one configure artifact removal/masking in both SVP and madVR?

They're different artifacts.

MadVR's "ringing" artifacts come from scaling the image up or sharpening it, and usually manifest as a thin halo around sharp edges: http://photographystepbystep.com/wp-con … g-halo.jpg

The debanding just adds a bit of noise around subtle color transitions to mask the "banding" effect: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/ … mple01.png


SVPs artifacts vary more and are quite different: http://www.svp-team.com/forum/misc.php? … download=0


In a nutshell, you should tune all of them to taste, depending on your current settings. MadVR's default debanding is usually fine unless you have some really weird animation, but the defining and svp artifacts should be tuned based on how much you notice them. There's no "best" setting for those.

However, I will say the ringing introduced in MadVR's better scalers is very subtle. I usually leave it off unless the source material already has ringing.

Re: Does one configure artifact removal/masking in both SVP and madVR?

brucethemoose wrote:

They're different artifacts.

MadVR's "ringing" artifacts come from scaling the image up or sharpening it, and usually manifest as a thin halo around sharp edges: http://photographystepbystep.com/wp-con … g-halo.jpg

The debanding just adds a bit of noise around subtle color transitions to mask the "banding" effect: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/ … mple01.png


SVPs artifacts vary more and are quite different: http://www.svp-team.com/forum/misc.php? … download=0


In a nutshell, you should tune all of them to taste, depending on your current settings. MadVR's default debanding is usually fine unless you have some really weird animation, but the defining and svp artifacts should be tuned based on how much you notice them. There's no "best" setting for those.

However, I will say the ringing introduced in MadVR's better scalers is very subtle. I usually leave it off unless the source material already has ringing.

Hey Bruce,
Great, thanks for the images, much much appreciated.
so I think i'll just leave the masking as shown in the snips below.
What do you think about these, and what are your personal preferred settings -which you have configured right now on your system?

Cheers!

Re: Does one configure artifact removal/masking in both SVP and madVR?

brucethemoose wrote:

They're different artifacts.

MadVR's "ringing" artifacts come from scaling the image up or sharpening it, and usually manifest as a thin halo around sharp edges: http://photographystepbystep.com/wp-con … g-halo.jpg

The debanding just adds a bit of noise around subtle color transitions to mask the "banding" effect: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/ … mple01.png


SVPs artifacts vary more and are quite different: http://www.svp-team.com/forum/misc.php? … download=0


In a nutshell, you should tune all of them to taste, depending on your current settings. MadVR's default debanding is usually fine unless you have some really weird animation, but the defining and svp artifacts should be tuned based on how much you notice them. There's no "best" setting for those.

However, I will say the ringing introduced in MadVR's better scalers is very subtle. I usually leave it off unless the source material already has ringing.

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