Topic: The power of hidden settings (true 4x on 60 Hz screen)

If you ever set the fps count to 4x and didn`t notice the difference,
it`s becouse there`s 60fps cap in hidden settings limiting you to 60 fpses
( example: the movie recorded in 30 fpses being actually 2 fpses will have 4fpses after smoothing - full success wink ).

Want to fix it?

1. go to information=>hidden settings,
2. set ExFixMonFPS and FPSD3DCycleCount to 100
3. watch how the impact of all the settings changes
4. celebrate by donating to svp smile.


In case it`s common knowledge - don`t be harsh smile.

Re: The power of hidden settings (true 4x on 60 Hz screen)

zakrawacz
What you want to say? hmm

Re: The power of hidden settings (true 4x on 60 Hz screen)

I want to say, that svp 4x works better with this two set to 100 (provided, the cpu is fast enough).
Don`t believe me, try it for yourself.

Re: The power of hidden settings (true 4x on 60 Hz screen)

zakrawacz wrote:

Hi, all - I`ve played a bit with this SVP and I see you don`t use the most powerfull smoothness tool.
You simply need a 100 Hz screen and target frame rate set to x4.


You don`t have a 100 Hz screen? - worry not - here`s what you need to do:
1. go to information=>hidden settings,
2. set ExFixMonFPS and FPSD3DCycleCount to 100
3. celebrate of how genious I am smile

Please elaborate a little more...  big_smile

Re: The power of hidden settings (true 4x on 60 Hz screen)

zakrawacz
FPSD3DCycleCount to 100
It is not mean 100 Hz.
And you never can get 100 Hz from 60 Hz monitors. wink

I think it is Xmas joke big_smile

6 (edited by AndreaMG 30-12-2012 09:39:13)

Re: The power of hidden settings (true 4x on 60 Hz screen)

MAG79 wrote:

zakrawacz
FPSD3DCycleCount to 100
It is not mean 100 Hz.
And you never can get 100 Hz from 60 Hz monitors. wink

I think it is Xmas joke big_smile

big_smile Apart from that, many plasma TVs (like mine: PANASONIC VT30) are able to reproduce 24p content by multiplying by 4 the frame rate (96hz), so I think my TV is in theory capable of doing better than 60hz, don't you think guys? I tried with NVIDIA custom resolutions but sadly any refresh rate above 60 is not supported sad Moreover being 3D capable when playing 3D stuff it goes to 120hz, but I think this refresh rate is only for 3D sad

7 (edited by zakrawacz 30-12-2012 17:03:02)

Re: The power of hidden settings (true 4x on 60 Hz screen)

My post could imply I`m trying to do 100Hz on 60Hz screen.
Agree - not possible.
It`s just that the 4x fpses doesn`t work well on default settings.
By '4x' i mean "Target framerate: multiply source by 4x" under video profiles.


Just found 2 numbers "60" in this hidden settings and changed it to "100".
Noticed it works waay better.
(right click on the program icon, select information, then hidden settings and the text document should open).

No idea what that options are or what they do - didn`t care.
Try for yourslef - i guarantee you`ll never change it back.


To be exact - my goal wasn`t to go over 60 Hz - imossible for me anyway.
My goal was to achieve max possible framerate.
"up to 60 fps" is not good anymore - svp can do even better  smile.

i`ll look at this thread from time to time to help resolve some questions

8 (edited by AndreaMG 30-12-2012 17:16:00)

Re: The power of hidden settings (true 4x on 60 Hz screen)

zakrawacz wrote:

To be exact - my goal wasn`t to go over 60 Hz - imossible for me anyway.
My goal was to achieve max possible framerate.
"up to 60 fps" is not good anymore - svp can do even better  smile.

i`ll look at this thread from time to time to help resolve some questions

Sorry pal, I'm not following you hmm if SVP is already creating 60 fps from a 24p movie and the newly born big_smile 60fps movie is perfectly displayed at a 60hz refresh rate what do you mean by max framerate possible?? hmm For a 60Hz TV a 60fps movie is already at its max, if you play a 120 fps movie on a 60hz display you will see no difference (maybe some tearing)? big_smile

9 (edited by zakrawacz 30-12-2012 23:49:53)

Re: The power of hidden settings (true 4x on 60 Hz screen)

It all comes to one basic question - have you ever seen constant 60fps content?
I`m accustomed to watching stable 60 fps at video games.
The movie played by media player in 60fps that has real 60fps only in couple scenes is no good for me.

The 30fps movie bumped 2x by svp to 60fps IS NOT 60 FPS MOVIE.
The movie file is recorded in 30 fpses but the actual movie gets serious fps hit whenever:
a) the camera moves,
b) many objects move in front of the camera,
c) there is some quick change, like an explosion or building crumble to milions pieces in moment.
d) the camera is turning while filming (like turn vertically, horizontally).
e) (my favorite) all those things together.

example 1 - you get 60fps movie,
but if there is a scene in the movie that was shot in 5fps, you`ll get 2 x 5 = 10 fps.
10fps is not a movie - 10fps is total recall balcony scene. I watched it in imax and was shocked how bad it looked.
The image gets choppy or blurred, not silky smooth as we deserve.

edit: example 2 - what happens with 100fps movie with my settings on 60Hz monitor?
(I`m no expert - that`s the best explanation I`ve came to)
1. Media player wants to display 30 fps movie.
2. svp captures the movie and adds the frames.
3. the movie is set to display in 120 fps.
4. The scenes that are 60fps fluent will get cut to 60 fps (30fps => 120fps => 60fps) - no gain here - all perfect already.
5. The scenes that have been bad to begin with will be bumped and then cut with no loss ex. (5fps=>20fps=>20fps) - huge gain where it matters.

Re: The power of hidden settings (true 4x on 60 Hz screen)

zakrawacz
The movie file is recorded in 30 fpses but the actual movie gets serious fps hit whenever:
but there is a scene in the movie that was shot in 5fps (huge action scenes)

you really need to provide some sample video here
we can watch it together, frame by frame  big_smile

11 (edited by zakrawacz 30-12-2012 23:59:42)

Re: The power of hidden settings (true 4x on 60 Hz screen)

Chainik wrote:

zakrawacz
The movie file is recorded in 30 fpses but the actual movie gets serious fps hit whenever:
but there is a scene in the movie that was shot in 5fps (huge action scenes)

you really need to provide some sample video here
we can watch it together, frame by frame  big_smile

In this tutorial I`ve found there is an example of movie being encoded in 60fpses (like decoded to raw and then encoded again and saved as new file with 60fps all the time).
http://www.spirton.com/convert-videos-to-60fps/
Other than that - I don`t have the device in my home to record in 60fpses smile so can`t give you example made by me.

http://mckack.tumblr.com/post/3535190601/60fps-vs-24fps
another example of stable 60fps (a classic) - to see this you need to click the link below the youtube and download the 23mb .avi.

12 (edited by %username% 31-12-2012 02:21:04)

Re: The power of hidden settings (true 4x on 60 Hz screen)

zakrawacz
set ExFixMonFPS and FPSD3DCycleCount to 100

its aint good
Green and red lines must be parallels

http://www.svp-team.com/forum/misc.php?item=2142

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Re: The power of hidden settings (true 4x on 60 Hz screen)

Can this work if you have a 75hz screen? Can this work just when you use "to screen refresh rate, default"?

Re: The power of hidden settings (true 4x on 60 Hz screen)

SVP can smoothing video to any refresh rate monitor. wink
75 Hz, 85 Hz, 120 Hz - all are good worked.