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(8 replies, posted in Using SVP)

Hi mag,

Yes... i use amd .. and my only optiong is to use DXVA (native or copy-back) and i have read in numerous places/topics that the best setting is indeed Copy-back ..

But despite the hardware deinterlacing already set to auto... i still need to use an software filter on top of it for some video material....(mainly TV- Episode Discs)  such as ffdshow... 
I dont get that realy.... or the auto hw deinterlace isnt working because iam not watching with hw acceleration... or its because deinterlace needs to be completely disabled or something else !!

therefor..  watching most of my movies is better while deinterlace is disabled completely i have noticed .... because the image gets distorted you know ... like pretty much the same way as if you watch interlaced material without an deinterlacer filter but then the other way arround .. you understand ..

So.... i search for an sollution to set the deinterlace feature in ffdshow to auto disable !! 
Normaly  MadVr has a similar function... but i have read its not working properly and its best to disable that feature in madvr and choose either "film or video deinterlacing when in doubt" checkbox ..


Thanks +1 ←  big_smile  (no so much usefull perhaps... but its polite mag .. woudnt u agree)

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(72 replies, posted in Using SVP)

Fanty1972 wrote:

What i meant to say is that i have tested and compared an bluray movie (all2hd+dnm = off / disabled) with an dvd movie (all2hd+dnm= V /enabled ) using windvd ... and i must say i didnt saw much difference quality wise...back then..

Then it was either:

a) you are very far away from the screen

That ↑ is irrelavant... because... during that comparising test i have watched the dvd & bluray from the same distance..

Yet...to me the DVD wos as good as the bluray...

So,  YOu woud think if the dvd playback is ok CQ then watching an HD movie from the same distance should result in A++ ok quality... but nothing can be farther from the truth...

And NO, i didn't watched an OLD MOVIE that they have remastered.. because thats what you implying is it not? 
I mean it wos an brand new movie... i think it wos AVATAR 3D on bluray... compared with AVATAR DVD9 ... 

And SERIOUSLY..... when i watched the DVD version on windvd with all the bells and whistles (All2hd+dnm) ... it looks just as good as the bluray...

But one important difference about bluray is... i have an 3DTV and when i watch AVATAR (bd) or any other movie for that matter in 3d, i dont get the 3D effect so much but its MUCH MUCH more sharper... 
Yes... then and ONLY then the quality is WAY BETTEr then my dvd version !!!

Only thing is  i have to wear glasses for hours.... sad  and not the least important .. the image is much darker watching movies with glasses !!!  and i hate that ...
  oh and my tv is LG and lg uses passive 3D ..

My hdtv is like 42inches... and i sit .. or lying proximately 3 meters away...  from the screen ....

So are you trying to tell me ,                                 that this ↑ distant is sufficient to watch DVD → STAndard diffinition but ToO FAR to watch HD definition material... which ought to look sharper because of the resolution at wich its capturer/encoded allone !!???

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(72 replies, posted in Using SVP)

MAG79 wrote:

Metagondria
faq that fits in 1 line only
SVP FAQ


err.. thanks... but i dont find MY faq ("ie: → auto ← deinterlace implentation") back in the list there Mag  big_smile !

Much less an answer.

But thanks for trying ...


cheers,

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(72 replies, posted in Using SVP)

MAG79 wrote:

Metagondria
Your question about auto-deinterlace moved to new topic Auto deinterlace and SVP

I will create an seperate topic for requests next time.. my bad...

Only thing is, i wos not sure that it's worth of the server space to create an entire new topic for an faq that fits in 1 line only  big_smile  !!
But if u preffer you want me to create an topic everytime i need to ask something ... please let me know  neutral .  I will keep in mind to do so in the future..



@fanta956

No... i didnt say i used DXVA+filtering .... more over .. i dont think i ever have used DXVA in Windvd 10 untill i swapped it for mpc-hc recently ...   !!

its my understanding that DXVA is to be used with → GPU ← hardware acceleration ... is it not...   ??

iam not sure... but DXVA1 is more intended to work with SD material such as DVD ... whileas DXVA2 is for HD purpose...   even though you can use DXVA2 for SD material... iam not sure about that...


That said, i use windvd without hardware accelaration because All2hd + DNM (filtering i wos talking about) can only be used in software mode = CPU demanding mode ...

What i meant to say is that i have tested and compared an bluray movie (all2hd+dnm = off / disabled) with an dvd movie (all2hd+dnm= V /enabled ) using windvd ... and i must say i didnt saw much difference quality wise...back then..

NOt to say, that if you woud use other means of playback/filtering that it still would not make any difference.


Also.. when i talk about desktop resolution ofcourse iam talking about SCALING .  But at the same time am i not upscaling aswell ...  when you play SD video material in → fullscreen mode ← regardless of the software player ..
→ Provided that the application uses the desktop HD resoultion wich is 1080p !!?


cheers,

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(72 replies, posted in Using SVP)

Chainik wrote:

Metagondria
Please try to be more ..... specific
It's getting really hard to find a .... core (or meaning) in your posts  hmm

errrgris???? Tis an aquired taste ...   hmm

If you like i always can post an RAW google translation next time  roll  ?!

But i can't promise the message will be shorter and/or more comprehensible  ..  hmm


cherriepoopers;.

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(72 replies, posted in Using SVP)

MAG79 wrote:

Oh. I see. You already did that.

Yes.. i have set the value to 0 to completely illimenate memleak messages..  Have lots of ram anyway...

usually when i take the time to relax and watch something through mpc... i dont need the ram as much for anything else in the background... 
I always ... work before pleasure ..  :D 




MAG ... i like to ask you...

Woud it be possible to implement and Auto Deinterlace feature in SVP ???  So that i dont have to Disable or enable it all the time !!!


Thank you ijn advance...

Fanty1972 wrote:

I dont get what you want to tell me.

What iam trying to tell and judge from the looks of those pictars fanta19 is.... that Jinc (left pictar) is nicer looking because of the less pixels due to the way of Anti-aliases processing i asume ... but... i prefer Lanzcos(right pictar) because the image looks brighter = therefor lil bit sharper  ... wel atleast on my screen ...

So yeah.. jinc looks more blurred to me probebly because of the high AA that is involved....  the method of frame rendering..

For EXAMPLE, in games iits THE EXACT SAME THING....  the MORE AA u use (i.e 2x 4x 8x etc)  the more BLURRED the image is and obviously because of that the IMAGE is less sharpen resulting in BLURRED objects on your screen... YUcJK i HATE it AA....

Though... an lil AA can be acceptable like 2x.... but thats as far as i want to go... anything more is just plain rubbish and spoils the fun in gaming... cuz everything is less noticeable you know what i mean...

The sharper the image the more clear it looks  =  MORE FRAGS hehe :P.

ANISOTROPIC filtering however... is like the DIRECT counterpart of AA  and SHARPENS the details ingame ALLOTS ...  and is always set to the highest level 16x over here  :D  ...

that ↑ up there is an VERY VERY nice FEATURE iam in LUV with  :D ...  AND NOT THE LEAST IMPORTANT → ... its not AS GPU DEMANDING as AA feauture tooo O !!!



SErIOUSLY,  you must have noticed that tooOO .. dont you  :/

So and again... i PREFER SHARPNESS above anything else ....  Meaning sharper = MORE DETAILS..  :D   

And i have talked you about that earlier in one of my topics .... the comparison of DIVX/XVID material VS the original SOURCE (dvd, Cam)  from which those DIVX/XVID files are created usualy ... when you search for an compressed movie on the www..

Fanty1972 wrote:

Well, me neither. If I use DivX (or XVid) SD material and scale it up with madVR, no matter what scaling method, they all look like the same identical, total unwatchable crap, wich is only bearable on 16 inch laptop screen in 2m distance but not projected to the wall.

Best solution: Fuck SD, get HD material of everything, if possible. That means: Fuck DVD (SD Quality) ;)

Oh nose.... SD + Enhancements (i.e desktop resolution + avisynth filtering) to me .. looks as great as HD → whitout enhancements though...

No question about it.... 

i have said it before and i say it again.... that HD stuff is SO OVER ESTIMATED to me...

The main and BIGGEST difference i see in HD material compared to DVD is the noise factore.... HD material looks → MUch MUch ← more clean ... the only thing that has dissappointed me about Bluray/HD is that the image still isnt as SHARP as it should be ... !!!!

Sure you must have noticed that too !!

But thats just me....

Wel not just me...

I have several ppl / friends / family of mine that have an Top Notch homecinema system in their houses that is capable of playing both bluray + dvd (backwards compatible ofcourse) 

And they came all to the same conclusion about Bluray ....  it looks an BIT better but tis not THAT HUGE LEAP forward since DVD ....

Perhaps the difference isnt that noticeable ,because dvd discs that are played in stand alone bluray players are automatically ENHANCED already ... because of the settings ppl use from in their stand alones.... like for example the upscaled resolution (very important) to 720p / 1080p...

Why else do you think Bluray has such an hard time to sell to the poeple , and are so many people in my community that still have DVD player instead of bluray player ← which is dvd backwards compatible by the way..

Many people i know have seen and watch bluray and arent all the impressive , so they didnt feel the need to change their hardware at home just and because for this small difference..

And i BET , thats why big movie industries are focusing on the next format →  4K monster resolution !!!!!


Fanty1972 wrote:

Oh yeah and...
Chroma channels are suposedly only 1/4 resolution of Luma (Picture) channel (to get smaller filesizes and chroma is for the colors only while Luma has the details). So they are ALLWAYS scaled. I would say I cant see a difference either if that chroma is scaled bilinear or jinc.


Yes... Croma is more for collor.... while luma brightens the picture...  I have noticed that while using sharpening filter....

You have to be carefull using Chroma.. cuz it tends to create allots of color noise in your pictar playback !!!!!!!


cheers,

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(21 replies, posted in Using SVP)

MAG79 wrote:

Metagondria
I look at your screenshot. Three sub-forums in Russian is normal. It must be so: SVP is soft from Russia. wink


I knew it.. somehow... i thought as much..... something about this site wos an WEEEE bit TOoo russion ...

AFTER ALL......  the screen tells it all ... TIS What it IS ... → TIS RUSHSION ← hour.. big_smile 

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(72 replies, posted in Using SVP)

UPdate "mpc mem leak"...

Well, i have changed an hidden setting , saved and restarted SVP to avoid those messages all the time...   So far mpc-hc didnt complain about mem leaks... mpc process however can eat up as much as 1GB+ ..  whileas running mpc after turning off/block every external filter from working it still gets arround 500Mb ram..

But i dont mind... as long it doesnt eat up all of my 8gb memory and perhaps my swap page tOO that is fixed to the same ammount as my RAM !!!  Have ssd disk , and i want to reduce writes especialy as much as possible to extend the lifetime of those fragile and EXPENSIVE devices !!

hence, the fixed pagefile.


Fanty1972 wrote:

I mean, i dont see any visuall improvements between madVR and EVR Custom realy...

EVR isnt Windows default renderer, its an improvement already.

As far as I read in other forums, EVR is a huge improvement of image quality compared to windows default renderer while madVR is only a tiny, for most people even not noticable improvement over EVR.

But I agree that upscaling SD material to Full HD, even jinc 8 is just not good enough. Since I use a projector and watch at a screen diagonale of 2 meter, SD material became totaly unwatchable to me. No matter what scaling method used.

btw, this is the difference between Lanczos and Jinc:
Left Jinc, right Lanczos:

http://web.cs.laurentian.ca/nrobidoux/misc/sigmoidal/Ginseng.11p6933.motocross.pnghttp://web.cs.laurentian.ca/nrobidoux/misc/sigmoidal/Lanczos3sRGB.motocross.png

As someone once said: the last 10% of quality take 90% of the hardware load.  big_smile

Nice screenies fanta...

I'll take lanzcos over jinx ANY DAY... and i do MEAN any given day of my existence  big_smile .. this more brighter = sharper looking ...

Now... let me be clear... you showed me an fine example of how it suppose to be... but in my case for regular dvd .. no matter what renderer ... or setting i use... i dont see any vissual improvement ..... And certainly not the kind of difference in quality you just showed us !!!

But the visual improvement mainly comes from my desktop resolution = 1080P  (1920x1080 hdtv res) REALY... my desktop is crysp clear on this LG smart tv of mine...

So yeah... by setting my desktop on 1080p i virtually have upscaled everything lol..

And Ofcourse.... the sharpening filters i use ... is an HUGE ASSET for dvd playback aswell... because the video screen is seriously STRETCHED going from 720x576 (pal source) to 1920x1080 ..  And in doing that it tends to get blurry lol imo !!


tAke care for yourself and... for eachother..

cherriepoppers,
metagondria

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(8 replies, posted in Using SVP)

Woud it be possible to implement and Auto Deinterlace feature in SVP ???  So that i dont have to Disable or enable it all the time !!!

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(72 replies, posted in Using SVP)

MAG79 wrote:

I need more details: error text, SVP last launch log.

Indeed.... today SVP allerted about some errors again...  Sometimes Mpc-hc however, did not complain about "invalid script" and yet SVP allert me about errors... even though mpc-hc did not !!!

Here's ↓ the latest lol mag...

2:36:22.438; Start: SVPMgr 3.1.5 (931) starts...
2:36:22.438; AppDataPath: C:\ProgramData (ANSI)
2:36:22.438; Start: read settings file settings.ini
2:36:22.438; Start: load language file - English. Duration: 30 ms
2:36:22.468; Start: check launched instance of SVP-manager
2:36:22.468; Start: check Avisynth installed. Duration: 5569 ms
2:36:28.037; Start: clear Logs folder. Duration: 10 ms
2:36:28.047; Start: performance graphs prepare
2:36:28.047; Start: SVPMgr folders prepare. Duration: 10 ms
2:36:28.057; Start: read settings file SVPMgr.ini
2:36:28.057; Start: GPUs settings detection. Duration: 560 ms
2:36:28.617; Start: detected graphics (OpenCL) adapter: 11. AMD Radeon HD 7900 Series (2800)
2:36:28.617; Start: monitors settings detection. Duration: 880 ms
2:36:29.497; Start: detected monitor: 1920 x 1080 @ 60
2:36:29.497; Start: disable LNG-file write when UAC enabled
2:36:29.497; Start: change SVP-manager priority
2:36:29.497; Start: register hotkeys. Duration: 10 ms
2:36:29.507; Start: get versions of modules used
ffdshow.ax/avisynth.dll: 1.3.4515.0/2.5.8.6
svpflow1/2.dll: 1.3.4.0/1.5.1.0
svpflow_cpu/gpu.dll: 1.7.2.0/1.7.9.0
2:36:29.507; Start: refresh autostart state in registry
2:36:29.507; Start: some more work with registry
2:36:29.507; Start: create menu. Duration: 10 ms
2:36:29.517; Start: update settings file settings.ini. Duration: 10 ms
2:36:29.527; Start: update monitor settings
2:36:29.527; Start: prepare "About the program" window. Duration: 370 ms
2:36:29.897; Start: enable ffdShow waiting mode
2:36:29.897; Start: prepare to work is complete
2:36:29.897; RefreshSVP
2:36:29.897; ===== Waiting for ffdshow video

2:36:47.666; ===== Detected playback with ffdShow. AppName: mpc-hc.exe PID: 4864
2:36:47.667; GetDimensionAndFPS_fromOSD start. Duration: 425 ms
2:36:48.092; GetDimensionAndFPS_fromOSD result: 720x576 25 64/45
2:36:48.096; T1T: begin
2:36:48.096; T1T: GetAllMediaParams
2:36:48.097; T1T: SettingsPrepare
2:36:48.102; T1T: Preparing smooth playback...
2:36:48.103; T1T: WriteAllMediaParamsToIni
2:36:48.104; SVPMgr: main "C:\ProgramData\SVP 3.1\" 712 568 25 712 568 12 5. Duration: 479 ms
2:36:48.583; ===== Playback
25 * (12 : 5) = 60 fps
Frame crop: [4:4:4:4] 
2:36:48.583; SetPriorityPlayer: 2. Duration: 8653 ms
2:36:57.236; ===== rewind forward 00:00:09 / --:--:--
2:36:59.421; this is changing FalseVFR_Dwn. ffdShow-framerate: 4.027
2:37:00.386; this is changing FalseVFR_Up. ffdShow-framerate: 15.455
2:37:01.321; this is changing FalseVFR_Up. ffdShow-framerate: 23.121
2:37:02.257; this is changing FalseVFR_Up. ffdShow-framerate: 24.713
2:37:03.194; this is changing FalseVFR_Up. ffdShow-framerate: 25
2:37:03.194; express clear interval
2:37:03.195; stabilized ffdShow-framerate: 25 fps. SVP Index:0.93/0.93
2:40:07.712; ===== rewind backward 00:03:21 / --:--:--
2:41:15.011; ===== rewind backward 00:04:28 / --:--:--
2:41:17.897; this is changing FalseVFR_Dwn. ffdShow-framerate: 24.24
2:41:21.649; clear interval
2:41:21.650; stabilized ffdShow-framerate: 24.247 fps. SVP Index:1.01/1.06
2:41:21.653; SVPMgr: main "C:\ProgramData\SVP 3.1\" 712 568 24.247 712 568 27 11. Duration: 413 ms
2:41:22.066; ===== Playback
24.247 * (27 : 11) = 59.515 fps
Frame crop: [4:4:4:4] 
2:42:14.166; ===== rewind backward 00:05:28 / --:--:--
2:42:16.599; this is changing FalseVFR_Up. ffdShow-framerate: 24.427
2:42:18.707; ===== rewind backward 00:05:31 / --:--:--
2:42:21.607; stabilized ffdShow-framerate: 24.502 fps. SVP Index:0.00/0.86
2:42:21.610; SVPMgr: main "C:\ProgramData\SVP 3.1\" 712 568 24.502 712 568 17 7. Duration: 284 ms
2:42:21.894; ===== Playback
24.502 * (17 : 7) = 59.505 fps
Frame crop: [4:4:4:4] 
2:42:26.655; ===== rewind backward 00:05:39 / --:--:--
2:42:30.593; this is changing FalseVFR_Up. ffdShow-framerate: 24.604
2:42:31.528; express clear interval
2:42:31.529; stabilized ffdShow-framerate: 24.616 fps. SVP Index:0.23/0.23
2:42:59.323; ===== rewind backward 00:00:00 / 00:00:00
2:42:59.325; RefreshSVP
2:42:59.328; ===== Waiting for ffdshow video

2:43:11.989; ===== Detected playback with ffdShow. AppName: mpc-hc.exe PID: 1096
2:43:11.990; GetDimensionAndFPS_fromOSD start. Duration: 205 ms
2:43:12.195; GetDimensionAndFPS_fromOSD result: 720x576 25 64/45
2:43:12.199; T1T: begin
2:43:12.199; T1T: GetAllMediaParams
2:43:12.200; T1T: SettingsPrepare. Duration: 6 ms
2:43:12.206; T1T: Preparing smooth playback...
2:43:12.208; T1T: WriteAllMediaParamsToIni
2:43:12.208; SVPMgr: main "C:\ProgramData\SVP 3.1\" 712 568 25 712 568 12 5. Duration: 302 ms
2:43:12.510; ===== Playback
25 * (12 : 5) = 60 fps
Frame crop: [4:4:4:4] 
2:43:12.511; SetPriorityPlayer: 2. Duration: 1937 ms
2:43:14.448; this is changing FalseVFR_Dwn. ffdShow-framerate: 15.725
2:43:15.389; this is changing FalseVFR_Up. ffdShow-framerate: 19.386
2:43:16.317; this is changing FalseVFR_Up. ffdShow-framerate: 23.895
2:43:17.252; this is changing FalseVFR_Up. ffdShow-framerate: 24.925
2:43:18.198; express clear interval
2:43:18.199; stabilized ffdShow-framerate: 25 fps. SVP Index:1.17/1.20
2:43:23.065; ===== rewind backward 00:00:11 / --:--:--
2:43:29.375; ===== rewind backward 00:00:17 / --:--:--
2:43:48.914; Error: Warning: there's a memory leak in the video player: 1238 MB
To prevent the closing of the player due to lack of memory a script restarted improve smoothness.. Duration: 5322 ms
2:43:54.236; at start:1238 at end:1239 growth:59 MB/min. Duration: 9202 ms
2:44:03.438; SetPriorityPlayer: 3
2:53:40.931; ===== rewind backward 00:10:29 / --:--:--
2:55:32.706; RefreshSVP. Duration: 9 ms
2:55:32.715; ===== Waiting for ffdshow video

2:55:39.307; ===== Detected playback with ffdShow. AppName: mpc-hc.exe PID: 1096
2:55:39.308; GetDimensionAndFPS_fromOSD start. Duration: 126 ms
2:55:39.434; GetDimensionAndFPS_fromOSD result: 720x576 25 64/45
2:55:39.437; T1T: begin
2:55:39.437; T1T: GetAllMediaParams
2:55:39.438; T1T: SettingsPrepare. Duration: 6 ms
2:55:39.444; T1T: Preparing smooth playback...
2:55:39.446; T1T: WriteAllMediaParamsToIni
2:55:39.447; SVPMgr: main "C:\ProgramData\SVP 3.1\" 712 568 25 712 568 12 5. Duration: 352 ms
2:55:39.799; ===== Playback
25 * (12 : 5) = 60 fps
Frame crop: [4:4:4:4] 
2:55:39.799; SetPriorityPlayer: 3
2:56:18.771; ===== rewind forward 00:00:39 / --:--:--
2:56:21.339; this is changing FalseVFR_Dwn. ffdShow-framerate: 0.054
2:56:25.083; clear interval
2:56:25.083; stabilized ffdShow-framerate: 0.028 fps. SVP Index:0.00/0.00
2:56:25.086; SVPMgr: main "C:\ProgramData\SVP 3.1\" 712 568 0.028 712 568 2143 1. Duration: 281 ms
2:56:25.367; ===== Playback
0.028 * (2143 : 1) = 60.004 fps
Frame crop: [4:4:4:4] 
2:56:58.779; ===== rewind forward 00:01:19 / --:--:--
2:57:05.885; ===== rewind forward 00:01:25 / --:--:--
2:57:08.888; this is changing FalseVFR_Up. ffdShow-framerate: 14.73
2:57:09.823; this is changing FalseVFR_Up. ffdShow-framerate: 22.762
2:57:10.759; this is changing FalseVFR_Up. ffdShow-framerate: 24.627
2:57:11.697; this is changing FalseVFR_Up. ffdShow-framerate: 25
2:57:11.697; express clear interval
2:57:11.698; stabilized ffdShow-framerate: 25 fps. SVP Index:0.00/0.93
2:57:11.700; SVPMgr: main "C:\ProgramData\SVP 3.1\" 712 568 25 712 568 12 5. Duration: 335 ms
2:57:12.035; ===== Playback
25 * (12 : 5) = 60 fps
Frame crop: [4:4:4:4] 
2:58:16.302; RefreshSVP. Duration: 8 ms
2:58:16.310; ===== Waiting for ffdshow video

2:58:20.378; ===== Detected playback with ffdShow. AppName: mpc-hc.exe PID: 1096
2:58:20.379; GetDimensionAndFPS_fromOSD start. Duration: 3068 ms
2:58:23.447; GetDimensionAndFPS_fromOSD result: 720x576 25 64/45
2:58:23.450; T1T: begin
2:58:23.450; T1T: GetAllMediaParams
2:58:23.451; T1T: SettingsPrepare
2:58:23.455; T1T: Preparing smooth playback...
2:58:23.456; T1T: WriteAllMediaParamsToIni
2:58:23.456; SVPMgr: main "C:\ProgramData\SVP 3.1\" 712 568 25 712 568 12 5. Duration: 297 ms
2:58:23.753; ===== Playback
25 * (12 : 5) = 60 fps
Frame crop: [4:4:4:4] 
2:58:23.753; SetPriorityPlayer: 3. Duration: 1153 ms
2:58:24.906; this is changing FalseVFR_Dwn. ffdShow-framerate: 20.629
2:58:25.833; this is changing FalseVFR_Up. ffdShow-framerate: 24.048
2:58:26.778; this is changing FalseVFR_Up. ffdShow-framerate: 24.965
2:58:27.715; express clear interval
2:58:27.715; stabilized ffdShow-framerate: 25 fps. SVP Index:0.92/0.93
2:58:46.273; ===== rewind backward 00:00:26 / --:--:--
2:58:48.619; this is changing FalseVFR_Dwn. ffdShow-framerate: 23.733
2:58:52.417; clear interval
2:58:52.418; stabilized ffdShow-framerate: 23.832 fps. SVP Index:1.13/0.96
2:58:52.420; SVPMgr: main "C:\ProgramData\SVP 3.1\" 712 568 23.832 712 568 5 2. Duration: 398 ms
2:58:52.818; ===== Playback
23.832 * (5 : 2) = 59.58 fps
Frame crop: [4:4:4:4] 
2:58:54.761; this is changing FalseVFR_Up. ffdShow-framerate: 23.947
2:58:58.500; clear interval
2:58:58.501; stabilized ffdShow-framerate: 24.03 fps. SVP Index:0.91/0.85
2:59:04.180; this is changing FalseVFR_Up. ffdShow-framerate: 24.139
2:59:07.938; clear interval
2:59:07.939; stabilized ffdShow-framerate: 24.228 fps. SVP Index:0.88/0.85
2:59:18.313; this is changing FalseVFR_Up. ffdShow-framerate: 24.329
2:59:22.072; clear interval
2:59:22.073; stabilized ffdShow-framerate: 24.409 fps. SVP Index:1.01/0.94
2:59:22.075; SVPMgr: main "C:\ProgramData\SVP 3.1\" 712 568 24.409 712 568 22 9. Duration: 416 ms
2:59:22.491; ===== Playback
24.409 * (22 : 9) = 59.666 fps
Frame crop: [4:4:4:4] 
2:59:44.114; this is changing FalseVFR_Up. ffdShow-framerate: 24.511
2:59:48.000; clear interval
2:59:48.001; stabilized ffdShow-framerate: 24.586 fps. SVP Index:1.19/1.05
2:59:48.004; SVPMgr: main "C:\ProgramData\SVP 3.1\" 712 568 24.586 712 568 17 7. Duration: 360 ms
2:59:48.364; ===== Playback
24.586 * (17 : 7) = 59.709 fps
Frame crop: [4:4:4:4] 
2:59:49.825; ===== rewind backward 00:01:29 / --:--:--
2:59:52.353; this is changing FalseVFR_Up. ffdShow-framerate: 25
2:59:53.356; express clear interval
2:59:53.357; stabilized ffdShow-framerate: 25 fps. SVP Index:0.00/1.07
2:59:53.360; SVPMgr: main "C:\ProgramData\SVP 3.1\" 712 568 25 712 568 12 5. Duration: 411 ms
2:59:53.771; ===== Playback
25 * (12 : 5) = 60 fps
Frame crop: [4:4:4:4] 
3:00:10.047; Error: Warning: there's a memory leak in the video player: 1320 MB
To prevent the closing of the player due to lack of memory a script restarted improve smoothness.. Duration: 7542 ms
3:00:17.589; at start:1334 at end:1334 stable
3:19:05.308; ===== rewind backward 00:20:44 / --:--:--
3:20:34.044; RefreshSVP
3:20:34.046; ===== Waiting for ffdshow video

So, first i thought about the command line i have changed in overide.js "Limited.smooth.scene" or something in the line if i recall correct... so i have revert it back to defaul → //  + the default value of 4000 ... well the value doesnt matter me thinks because // = completely disabled anyway right?

So i did to check and see if i could reproduce that error while running svp at default setting back again.... and sure enough the error persisted  hmm  !!! 

MAG79 wrote:

Video player memory Leak warning
See topics here about this error.

Thanks+1  big_smile , i'll have look..


cheers,

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MAG79 wrote:

Metagondria
He ask a screenshot of "subsections of this forum is all in RUSSIAN"


Sure.. No problem... Here → http://s27.postimg.org/jgmjs593z/subsection_screenie.jpg

Forgive me for asking, but dont you know how the site looks like by now  big_smile


cheers,

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I dont know about you guys... but madVR seems to be overestimated ....

I mean, i dont see any visuall improvements between madVR and EVR Custom realy...   but thats maybe because i watch regular dvd's and/or there just isnt any visuall improvements at all  !!

Or .... maybe its because i use some FFDshow filtering .. like sharpening and deinterlace ...

But EVR custom looks just as good as MadVR to me .. and with less bells and whistles ....

i thought MadVR woud be special ... especially handy for watching low res dvd on an 1080P desktop res...
But no.. i dont realy see any improvements .... tried every setting ... lanzcos / jinc tap8 ← supposed to be the best setting ...

Trust me, i have an eye for these things...


hey welkins... good to know that all is sorted out for u...

Now, if the svp team only could do something about the navigation of dvd menu's.. so that i not alway have to disable / enable svp mids playback ... so annoying... ..
Sometimes i forget it and i have to prest ALT+T again to refresh mpc-hc screen .... else iam staring at an frozen image !!!


cheers,

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Yep THIS UP THERE ↑ ↑ ... have found a sollution to the frame drop both in window & fullscreen mode ...

DEFENITELY something going on with the way external filters work in tandem with mpc-hc .....   

I dont have dropp / delay frames anymore .. despite the high demanding setting in svp !!!

...

so Welkins .. if you read this... 2 words  → eXTERNAL filters ← defenitely worth to play with ...

also.... doing the slightes thing like summon menu or other mouse activity or switch from full screen to window will cause dropps to i have noticed !!
But thats usuall temporarely in my case... everything gets in sync back after a sec or so..

And or NOT UNIMPORTANT ... → SErvices / tasks running in th BAckground (TASK MANAGER is your friend) ←  or even better processlasso is a neat application for prioritizing cpu, mem, I/O and selecting cpu affinity and so much more...

VEry neat programm too Proccesslasso it calls ...  neutral  And best thing of all... you can use it FREE or buy it ... 


EDIT:  Yess... To much video filters will cause framedrops aswell for SURE ...  I had boths FFDshow Video filter + FFDshow Raw video filter selected to prefer....  SO, had to go ..  So i choose to keep → ONLY ← FFdshow Raw filter to run everything ...

No LAV video decoder needed no FFdshow video decoder needed ... just RAW HEAT chortles..


i choose ffdshow because else you wont get the quick settings tab in system tray to set additional filters like  sharpen or deinterlacing for example ...   

And since i got rid of the framedrops both in window & fullscreen mode... i dont get to see the invalid script error anymore !!..  Coincidence  hmm  ?

voila ..n o more drop outs...

EDIT 2: WauW.... unreal.... So... appearantly you do need LAV video DEcoder in tandem with RAw video layer ..... else i got frame drops... AGAIN ... Serious... leee?

So and AGAIN 2 KEYWORDS → EXTERNAL & FILTERS ←  hmm


hmm.... weird one this one.... dropped frames in window mode .. but NONE in fullscreen 1920x1080 60P  ... hmm FTW !!

Playing with motion vector grid and setting that to default will make frame drop go away to in window mode...

But what ever SETTING i choose .. it doesnt seem to affect FULLSCREEN performance !!

MY BET is ON → Exclusive Mode in madVR renderer ←  ... I garantee it.. that definitely has something to do with it too...


FTW indeed ... shit..excuse my language

Oh well.. for the better i say...  SURE woudnt want to have it the other way arround lol....


LAST EDIT but not the LEAST (README)  Yep.... Renderer that is chosen has difenitely something to do with the frame drops wilkenson.... (or others that struggle with the same mayhem)   and not → so much ←SVP me thinks...

Just checked that theory myself and changed from madVr to EVR Custom...  and voila ...   NO more frame drops both in window & fullscreen REGARDLESS of which SVP profile settings.... 

check this OUT ↓  big_smile

http://s17.postimg.org/no3pccq0b/framedrops.jpg


Hope that works for u... it atleast clears up some things for me...


cheers,

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MAG79 wrote:

Metagondria
the error doesnt always show while blend is checked
I know. Only in some cases. I want to say the option you using is wrong. I recommend:

Uncheck option 'Blend frames to screen refresh rate' in SVP profile settings window. It is harmfully to video quality and give additional load to CPU.

I think to delete this option from next version of SVP.

Uhuh...

I have noticed arround here , it has been a much discussed subject that "blend" thing.

Well... mag... me thinks you dont need my aproval to make it so....  big_smile

so...

MAKE IT SO... and ENGAGE ...  cool

cherriepoppers,

metagondira

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Chainik wrote:

Metagondria
give me a screenie


Screenie ... of ... (drumroll)...?

cool  tada... !

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Thank YOU → +1  big_smile

Thank u ... in ENGRISH...

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MAG79 wrote:

Because to get more smoothness is better way to interpolate new frames with SVP than use Frame blending via SVP Blend frames option or madVR smooth motion option.
Then you will get clear sharp pictures without double contours.

errr.. iam not kiddin about this mag .... the playback is only MAX SMOOTHIE when using madVR smooth motion options;.. cant explain why .. but tis  happening over here currently as we speak !!
Don't get me wrong... its very smooth already with unifrom selection... but with madvr smoothness in tandem... its TAD BIT MORE BETTEr... NOT BY MUCH .. but theres room for improvement mag... neutral

MAG79 wrote:

Yes. Sorry for use without your opinion. It is for education purposes only. wink

No nO no... no need to ask my permision...  The video wos made public anyway.... so its up to me to mentioned that its for private parts use only ...
Nah.. forget about it  big_smile ....

U get always exclusive material from metagondria mag ... for you to do whatever you pleases...  neutral

MAG79 wrote:

Sound is on in uploaded file. Just one audio track with silence.

Yeah that... because there must be atleast 1 audio track in recode... no way arround it... but the original capture is made whitout SOUND... well in fRAps sound capture is totaly OFF ...
Else you would have hear him breath through that pen of his you know  big_smile

MAG79 wrote:

@maggie79
Good joke big_smile

http://www.svp-team.com/forum/misc.php?item=2951

Ah... and thEre is lil maggie... so much she has grown....  to be king of the hill .. → last pictar.. to the right  lol


oh and mag... on a side note.... i get regular an yellow "invalid script" warning in mpc → black screen as title/root menu to choose from  big_smile  !!

Though... svp isnt reporting /warning anything unusuall...
dunno what to make of it!!

EDIT : Oh almost forget.... now i get HUGE frame DrOPS in Window mode... but not in FULL SCREEN fortunately ..  just the opposite of what wilkens has to endure LOL  hmm  hmm  !!   

EDIT 2: ADD to that ↑ .. Video player memory Leak warning too now for the first time  hmm  FTW !! 
Well , first thing i tried is changed the setting back to default in the file overide.js  ... but errr.. allas ... so it must be something else ...!

cheers

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ERr.... also.... i have noticed you have moved an portion of my topic to another wave lenght !!!

Errr Mag.... is there a way to select engrish over here .. cuz the subsections of this forum is all in RUSSIAN..  Yep its RUSSION !!!

My profile settings is set to ENGRISH though !!

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MAG79 wrote:

how will you know where to look for in SVP
I will. Trust me smile

Uhuh ... hmmkay... well then.... 

There's realy nothing left for me to do beside to trust you.... 

                                                                  IN MAG79 WE TRUST    cool

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@maggie79

Am  i seeing this correct and are u using my video i have uploaded as an text book example back there up there ↑  big_smile   i.e (Downloads\metagondria\The good stuf... )

i see u underlined the audio portion of the vidclip... but the truth is i only captured video material... sound = off in fraps hehe since the audio wosnt in question and had not any purpose..

Also.. weird that reclock reads my vidclip as only 1077 and interlaced.. unless it doesnt only reclock but also resize your playback on the fly !!

Lol... iam flattered .. realy...  neutral

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MAG79 wrote:

Metagondria
in madVR use setting Smooth playback = alway's
It is harmful advice. I don't agree with you. I always disable madVR Smooth motion.

Well thats odd.... not because you dont agree with me... but rather why you dont agree with me ?

But atleast .. we agreee to disagreeee .. right?  big_smile

Realy... turning it of ... yield better results for me .... err... let me check that out again... and again.... i'll pay attention to that !!


Thanks for your thoughts maggie79,

cherriepoopers,

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Lt.welkin..

Have you ever tried and checked playback whitout using reclock... ?

Tried using REclock myself in tandem with windvd and ... errrr... twos NO SHOW !!!   Reclock just hang and shutdown upon windvd start... yep latest revision 1.8.8.x....

Also.... in madVR use setting Smooth playback = alway's....   I know some one else here has suggested to do the opposite ... but in my case when turning that offf in madVR ... SVP isnt playing so smooth anymore ...
but i have an critical eye for these things  big_smile  !!!


Looks you got ur work solving this !!

Good luck charm . welkin...


p.s: Thanks for your thoughts about my probs i have had in the "Nerve tick/spasm" topic of mine .. chortles...

cheers,

NIcE.... higher vallues = SMOOTH AS A BABY's BUTTUCKS again  lol

Mission Accomplished..... so far... so good ....  hmm

And while i wos in the Zone i have fixed another issue i had ......  care to know what that wos tongue ..... 


THANK YOU → +1 (to both of you up there) .... YOU HAVE MY GRATITUDE ..... AND BOW.....  big_smile


cheerios...
metagondira

MAG79 wrote:

too many words. don't hurry. think, try, google, then write... wink


uhuh... perhaps... not in that exact following order.. but i get the general idea...

Btw, found the overide.js file your refering too.. myself.... there is the setting you want me to change alright...
But errrrr...


To what vallue should i change it ... pretty please......

I probebly can find it using google... but why would i run in 360's circles repeatedly when i have established contact with you ... the master brain... who ought to knows what BEST..for all of us subjects


EDIT ... trying default vallue → 4000 = no go.... higher or lower ?


thank youuuu