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ok, will do that this weekend

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MAG79
thanks mag but the problem is that the edge distortion in 50% in the black bar and approx. 50% in the actual picture. (how can I make a screenshot of it?)

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MAG79
hmmmm, that s strange, it isn t the GPU acc. because that s already enabled. Could the bottom edge distortions be caused by another thing than the SHARP shader?

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AndreaMG3D support will be on his longterm to-do list but untill there s no non-commercial player out there which will support 3D Blu-Ray, madshi can t do much. There s really no hope that anything will be released by non-commercial player for at least a few years I think.

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MAG79
have to check this tonight. I DID install the new WHQL nvidia drivers last weekend so maybe GPU acc. was disabled after that.....

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Mag, when I use the SHARP shader I get heavy artifacts at the bottom (and some on the top) of the screen. It looks like some kind of 'distortion' and can ONLY be seen when the entire picture/camera in the movie is fast moving. It is also far more heavy with 1:78:1 (16:9) content and not so much with 2:35:1 content. Any idea what could cause this? It is gone when I start using the default (standard) shader but you told me that the SHARP shader is closest to the original correct?

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You must`ve misread my thread...I do not have the BenQ 7000. I saw a demo and was blown away by the 3D.
It was spectacular but it also SUCKS with the contrast! I cannot live with that.
I have a JVC RS45 and LOVE the picture it produces...I hate the 3D on it despite having great contrast and a great looking picture. the ghosting and crosstalk drives me insane though.

I owned quite some projectors and the RS45 is one of them. The RS45 is THE projector to beat as for 2D under 5K. The 3D is terrible on it. The new RS46 isn t much better. (the ghosting is a little better but it still flickers like hell). The Sony HW50 is a little better but still makes me nauseous after watching 15minutes of 3D content. The W7000 really shines in 3D but indeed lacks contrast. The just released Mitsubishi HC8000DBL COULD be the 2D+3D projector to beat this year. SOme initial testing is done atm by some projector gurus on the AVS community. If you want top notch 3D you can look at the $ 40.000,00 SIM2 3D-S. This is one of the few HT projectors that support tripple flash (144Hz) in 3D mode.

But I m going way OT with all this projector talk smile

'We' have to find out if PowerDVD or Total Media Theater could support SVP. (Corelsoft windvd sucks)


I`m not changing my projector and get a huge hit changing it. I just wish (for now) if a program like SVP would work with frame packed 3D. That`s all I care about.
I want nothing to do with SBS 3D...to me it sucks!

I guess I just have to wait

Regards,

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AndreaMGYou cannot play 3D Blu-Ray with MPC-HC. The are 3 commericial players which support 3D Blu-Ray are those are PowerDVD, Total Media Theater and WinDVD. There are no plans for a non-commercial player to support 3D Blu-Ray.

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AndreaMG
Like I said, madVR is a RENDERER. The only thing madshi could accomplish in the future is make madVR support players that are 3D Blu-Ray capable.

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AndreaMG
Never possible. madVR is a renderer.

First non commercial players that are compatible with madVR has to support 3D br playback like mpc-hc but this will likely not happen for a few years from now.

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3D Blu-Ray on a htpc is ONLY supported by PowerDVD, Total Media Theater and WinDVD. You cannot play 3D Blu-Ray with other software, also not with StereoScopic or 3D Vision Video Player. I ve asked on the PowerDVD and TMT forum a few weeks ago if ffdshow is supported but I never got an answer to this
http://forum.cyberlink.com/forum/posts/ … 25615.page
http://www.arcsoft.com/forum/forum_post … 9160#49160

@Fatsahft: your W7000 is flawless concerning flicker and ghosting. No better choise under 10K you can make for this. The motion on the W7000 is also much better then the motion handling of non-DLP machines. However, the W7000 really lacks black performance. I have the Sony HW50 atm. This has great blacks and superb colors in 3D but the downside is that it has much more flicker and ghosting then DLP. You might want to check out the Mitsubishi HC8000DBL as it seems to have great contrast, good brightness, no crosstalk and above all a flickerfree picture. If SVP will support PowerDVD or Total Media Theater you have the ultimate 3D setup with a HC8000DBL+SVP for under 10K!

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http://forum.doom9.org/showpost.php?p=1 … ount=16114

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MAG79
Jup, I got 59.94XXX reported by madVR. madVR tells me 'one frame dropped every 21 minutes'. That would be approx. 3 dropped frames per hour. But I get 20-30 dropped frames in one hour. Do I have to ask madshi (madVR author) what could this be or do you have an idea too maybe?

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So conclusion for my setup is that it is best to keep using the 59 profile of Nvidia correct?

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MAG79

1. 23,976 content (this is what I only play)
2. I know it s only a name but I thought that on most NVIDIA settings 59 = 59.94 and that is the one that we want to use I thought......

My display device (Sony HW50 front projector) supports only 1080/24p, 1080/50p and 1080/60p

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MAG79 wrote:

THX-UltraII
Best refresh rate is multiply to framerate wink

? I thought it was best to put it on 'To Screen Refresh Rate' and put the HTPC on 59Hz?

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by the way MAG, I thought that when your display has 50, 59 and 60 options 59 is best to pick? You are saying 60 in this topic..... Or is this only for HTPC/Nvidia users?

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MAG79
I am only talking about my experience I have with digital front projectors. I have seen almost all the current HT projectors that all have some kind of FI option on-board but none of them can ce compared with SVP. In this case I am NOT talking about the actual smoothness but about the aritifacts. With a little tweaking (and maybe in a future version wink) SVP can use its '1,5M' mode which causes simply NOT A SINGLE visible artifact at all while still getting a decent smoothness. All the FI techniques on front projectors I have seen show artifacts, even with a low FI setting. That s where SVP (when using 1,5M mode) is so unique!

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MAG79 wrote:

Hi ed89.
If your TV has any technology of new frames inserting (frame interpolation - FI mode) then choose 23p mode and enable FI mode. You not need SVP.
If your TV has not FI mode then install SVP and use 50p or 60p mode. All work SVP does automatically. It can encrease frequence of frames to any times. For example from 23,976 to 60 fps.

Don t agree with you here MAG. SVP does frame interpolation MUCH better then any FI mode on a standalone display device!

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- use big vectors grid step with small radius (less local movements and local distortion);

what do you mean with this?Should I use:

6 px. Small 2 + By two with global refinement

OR

32 px. Large 0 + To small step 6-8 px.

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MAG? Any thought?

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It was some technical issues and I had to stop my experiments. In few days I think I will return to this topic.

As for now we have 4 variants of 1.5m:
- 1m11m (it is gaunt's idea, not ready, stuttering is visible)
- 1mm1m with 50% distance (ready to use in SVP 3.1.2, more smoothness)
- 1mm1m with custom distances (ready to use in SVP 3.0 with gaunt mod, more smoothness)
- 1mm1m with 50% intensity (it is gaunt's idea, I'm work on it, even more smoothness)

Looking forward to the integration in SVP 3.1.3

Advices about interpolated frames close to original ones:
- use 2-nd shader (no blending: no bluring);
- disable Artifact masking (less bluring);
- use big vectors grid step with small radius (less local movements and local distortion);
- use half-pixel precision (slow movements become more accurate);

So for the shader you are referring to the 'SHARP (ANIME)' to use correct?
What about 'VECTOR SEARCH' and 'SEARCH RADIUS'? Put them on max or min?

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MAG,

Any news yet on the 1.5M/1M50% mode?

I have another question:
If I want to video (after the SVP processing) to be as close as possible to the original, what are the settings that has to be used? I am NOT talking about the amout of frames here but about other aspects like blurring etc. So right now I m using 1M50% (smooth.scene.limits.m1 = 0 + smooth.scene.limits.m2 = 0;) and I m looking for the settings that will result in video that is closest to the original for the following settings. Could you advise on this?

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MAG,

Check out the topics I started on the Total Media Theater forum and Cyberlink forum. Let s wait for reaction. TMT5 and PDVD12 are the only (perfectly and flawlassly) blu-ray 3D capable HTPC players out there.

http://www.arcsoft.com/forum/forum_post … 9160#49160

and

http://forum.cyberlink.com/forum/posts/ … 25615.page

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mocca wrote:

Bluray 3d files, is  that a 3d bluray/iso or mkv files that svp will have support for?

Would like to know this too. If it will be full blu-ray (BDMV structure folder) support this would be freakin awesome!! However, there are only a few (commercial) player that support 3D Blu-Ray BDMV structure playback and I m wondering now if they support SVP? The players I m referring to are Total Media Theater from Arcsoft and PowerDVD from Cyberlink.