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02-05-2024 16:25:40

Xenocyde wrote:

aloola wrote:
yes, it's the only reason we use v2
from my benchmark, v2 gives a huge fps boost
Why is HAGS ON? Shouldn't turning it off provide an even bigger fps boost?

I want to use Frame Gen in some games that's why I turn it on.

also
HAGS ON gives you better FPS on light tasks, but it's worse on heavy tasks. (in the end, turning it off is still better for RIFE)

Ryzen 5900x + 4080 SUPER

if you want to benchmark with mpv, add the configs to the bottom of your mpv.conf file.

profile = benchmark # add # to disable benchmark
[benchmark]
osd-msg1 = "FPS: ${estimated-display-fps}"
opengl-swapinterval = 0 # {lock☒}
opengl-dwmflush = no # {lock☒}
vulkan-swap-mode = immediate # When using --gpu-context=winvk, if the number of frames is equal to the refresh rate, try changing to mailbox
d3d11-sync-interval = 0 # {lock☒}
d3d11-flip = no # {lock☒} The swapping effect of flip may clamp the extreme frame rate FPS_max=number of front and rear buffers x refresh rate

hidpi-window-scale = no # {lock☒} Disable DPI scaling first and then the specified magnification will be accurate
window-scale = 1.5 # Manually specify the source zoom ratio (limited by --auto-fit=<value>)
sub = no # {lock☒}
audio = no # {lock☒}
keep-open = always # {lock☒}
# display-fps-override = 24 # Match source framerate as much as possible
video-sync = display-desync # {lock☒}
interpolation = no # {lock☒}

02-05-2024 00:48:06

Blackfyre wrote:

So v2 in some instances definitely performs better

yes, it's the only reason we use v2
from my benchmark, v2 gives a huge fps boost

15-04-2024 12:29:06

Drakko01 wrote:

If I use mpc-VR (RTX HDR + RTX SuperRes) with MPC-HC or MPC-BE I don't get the best experience, the quality is very good, but I have a kind of stutter in slow camera movements or certain close ups, no in panning movements. This is not present when I use Madvr. Maybe i got some settings wrong in MpcVR dunno.
BTW I always talking of Realtime Playback just for clarify.

I think the lack of G-sync/freesync support causing this.
try the options video -> frame synch -> "Sync video to display" in MPC, it may fix the problem

14-04-2024 03:40:36

mpc-BE + mpc-VR (RTX HDR + RTX SuperRes) + SVP RIFE give you the best experience and easy to config.

also for mpv I found this is a good shader for anime/real-life videos https://github.com/cunnyplapper/CuNNy/t … r/mpv/fp16

13-04-2024 03:59:41

Drakko01 wrote:

I was always curious why the devs never updated the TRT Version if there its a reason not to.

there are compatible issues, like crashes on seek, or performance degradation. trt 9.2 seems stable though, I haven't heard any problems with it

05-04-2024 01:29:40

unrealit wrote:

Hi!
Sorry for the stupid Question!
But , How can i get Benchmark Values?
And what is HAGS?
What do you mean?
Thanks

use the script here.
https://github.com/AmusementClub/vs-mlrt/discussions/19

HAGS = Hardware Accelerated GPU Scheduling
you could google it for more info.

In RIFE with HAGS on performance might drop up to 25%.

29-03-2024 18:36:07

unreality wrote:

Hello, I actually noticed that too, fixed 50fps doesn't run at all... very jerky! If I should use 2x24, i.e. 48p, then I will have to endure jerking every time the camera pans?
Is there no solution for this?

you can try the mpv options
video-sync=display-resample
interpolation=yes

# Force video to lock on the display's refresh rate, and change video and audio
# speed to some degree to ensure synchronous playback - can cause problems
# with some drivers and desktop environments.

you don't need this if your monitor support VRR/G-sync

29-03-2024 17:33:50

unreality wrote:

Hello everyone,
I would like to play back 50 Hz with MPV (implemented in SVP) because my i9 14900 with DDR5 6200 and RTX 4090 probably can't play 2.5 speed at 4K. So I have to play back at 2x (48p) but the TV does 50hz. is there a possibility? Can't you fix something at MPV?

you should stop at 24x2 48

50fps, 60fps = cost the same power as 24x3

27-03-2024 22:36:52

1080@x5 HAGS OFF 4t build 5 in 331.55 seconds
Output 8000 frames in 45.79 seconds (174.70 fps) 4.15 lite
Output 8000 frames in 52.86 seconds (151.35 fps) 4.15

1080@x5 HAGS OFF 4t build 4 in 101.19 seconds
Output 8000 frames in 37.26 seconds (214.68 fps) 4.15 lite
Output 8000 frames in 54.36 seconds (147.16 fps) 4.15

1080@x5 HAGS OFF 4t build 3 in 70.20 seconds
Output 8000 frames in 39.49 seconds (202.59 fps) 4.15 lite
Output 8000 frames in 51.14 seconds (156.42 fps) 4.15

1080@x5 HAGS OFF 4t build 2 in 41.65 seconds
Output 8000 frames in 36.79 seconds (217.45 fps) 4.15 lite
Output 8000 frames in 51.62 seconds (154.99 fps) 4.15

1080@x5 HAGS OFF 4t build 1 in 41.60 seconds
Output 8000 frames in 36.44 seconds (219.55 fps) 4.15 lite
Output 8000 frames in 52.00 seconds (153.83 fps) 4.15

1080@x5 HAGS OFF 4t build 0 in 22.14 seconds
Output 8000 frames in 42.09 seconds (190.09 fps) 4.15 lite
Output 8000 frames in 63.52 seconds (125.95 fps) 4.15

4Kx2 HAGS OFF 4t build 0 in 23.42 seconds
Output 2000 frames in 36.49 seconds (54.80 fps) 4.15 lite
Output 2000 frames in 51.31 seconds (38.98 fps) 4.15

4Kx2 HAGS OFF 4t build 1 in 77.06 seconds
Output 2000 frames in 33.16 seconds (60.32 fps) 4.15 lite
Output 2000 frames in 39.89 seconds (50.14 fps) 4.15

4Kx2 HAGS OFF 4t build 2 in 88.97 seconds
Output 2000 frames in 33.50 seconds (59.69 fps) 4.15 lite
Output 2000 frames in 40.41 seconds (49.49 fps) 4.15

4Kx2 HAGS OFF 4t build 3 in 135.63 seconds
Output 2000 frames in 33.19 seconds (60.26 fps) 4.15 lite
Output 2000 frames in 38.83 seconds (51.51 fps) 4.15

4Kx2 HAGS OFF 4t build 4 in 172.76 seconds
Output 2000 frames in 34.21 seconds (58.46 fps) 4.15 lite
Output 2000 frames in 39.08 seconds (51.17 fps) 4.15

4Kx2 HAGS OFF 4t build 4 in 566.31 seconds
Output 2000 frames in 33.42 seconds (59.85 fps) 4.15 lite
Output 2000 frames in 39.04 seconds (51.23 fps) 4.15

well just stick with build 3 (default) or build 2 for faster build

27-03-2024 20:46:29

has anyone tried the option builder_optimization_level=5?
https://github.com/AmusementClub/vs-mlr … g/v14.test

builder_optimization_level – The builder optimization level which TensorRT should build the engine at. Setting a higher optimization level allows TensorRT to spend longer engine building time searching for more optimization options. The resulting engine may have better performance compared to an engine built with a lower optimization level. The default optimization level is 3. Valid values include integers from 0 to the maximum optimization level, which is currently 5. Setting it to be greater than the maximum level results in identical behavior to the maximum level.

someone here said lvl 5 has better performance.
https://github.com/Blinue/Magpie/discussions/844

25-03-2024 22:08:37

Olombo wrote:

Hi
maybe some progress over here....
Setting frc/frame/resize to -1 makes uhd work. But.....what am I doing here? Wiki says "resize to screen if larger". Am I loosing content/resokution by doing so? Other downsides?

what is your display resolution?

default SVP will resize video to display screen's

25-03-2024 19:36:47

right now I just need to keep these 3 models:

4.6 for performance
4.16 lite for balance
4.15 for quality

also the mpv VRR bug
looks like d3d11va will cause VRR to stop working, d3d11va-copy and other hwdecs work with VRR

25-03-2024 17:35:17

Olombo wrote:

Hi
hardware:
I5-13600
Ddr5 -4800 32gb stock settings
Gainward rtx 4090
MPC-HC
TensorRT
Boost enabled
HAGS off
Win11( anybody else or all using win10??)
Display @47.952
Tried "as Monitor" and "movie x2" with "force exact value" on and off. No difference at all.
AI model....4.6 or 4.15.....no difference. All stuttering
UHD in MPV hase some dropped frames. In MPC is like every fourth frame is dropped. MadVR is almost conpletely passtrough and no difference.

you might try to turn off hardware acceleration (hwdec) in your player. at least in my case, it gave me worse performance on 4K videos.

25-03-2024 17:22:27

my point is 4.9 and 4.16 lite have the same performance but 4.16 lite has better quality. then there is no reason for people to use 4.9 even if live-action films are the same quality (no proof or testing yet)

25-03-2024 16:16:57

4.16 lite has fewer artifacts and about the same performance as 4.9, so if you are using 4.9, time to switch to 4.16 lite

4.9

4.16 lite

1080@x5 HAGS OFF
Output 8000 frames in 36.37 seconds (219.96 fps) 4.16 lite
Output 8000 frames in 50.77 seconds (157.59 fps) 4.15
Output 8000 frames in 52.62 seconds (152.04 fps) 4.14 lite
Output 8000 frames in 50.25 seconds (159.21 fps) 4.14
Output 8000 frames in 37.24 seconds (214.82 fps) 4.9
Output 8000 frames in 32.78 seconds (244.02 fps) 4.6 (DRAM bottleneck)

the best model atm in terms of quality/performance

25-03-2024 11:47:30

Olombo wrote:

Abraxas: how is it possible you can watch 4k x2 UHD with a 4070? I can not get it running without frame drops with a 4090 and mpc-hc?
May it be the model of 4090 why it does not work for some of us? Gainward is mine...others with stock OC may be faster

my 3070ti with HAGS off can run 4k@24 x 2 with a few frame drops. so 3080 should be a minimum to be able to smoothly run 4k@24 x 2 with HAGS off

what's your PC specs: CPU, RAM speed, bus, RAM timing?

is there any comparison for frame.resize ?
I mean if it downscale to 1080p, why then starting from 4k and not start with 1080p ? You're not really playing 4K then

you don't need to resize it to 1080p, 4090 should do perfectly fine for 3040 x 1710@24 x3

* with 4.6 v2 model

20-03-2024 17:17:23

It looks like x3 4k with RIFE is impossible if your RAM is DRAM4

x2 cost 25~28GB/s, my max memory BW is 31GB/s

based on the picture you might need RAM5 6000+ to run RIFE 4k x3
https://www.servethehome.com/wp-content … 68x648.jpg

15-03-2024 07:21:16

it's not your GPU fault, the cause is the DDRAM's BW bottleneck (this was confirmed) or even the Vapoursynth bottleneck, we don't know for sure.

instead of x3 you can try a better quality model like Rife 4.9 or 4.15 x2

13-03-2024 02:14:44

Olombo wrote:

Changing the copy back has no effect. I recognized that also mpv has drops. I just had a mistake while testing (used 1080p file....works easy of course. Only UHD has frame drops).
So....2 different players both with frame drops. Which rife model I use makes no real difference. Any recommendation how to proceed?

there are some options to boost the performance:
- turn off HAGS (in windows)
- pre-resize video resolution to lower res (in SVP menu)

12-03-2024 02:57:31

Olombo wrote:

Ok....I check transcoding. This works with x2 for up to 60fps. Also mpv player works fine with installed 4.14
Any Idea what could cause mpc to stutter but lets mpv work perfect?

try to turn off the Hardware Decoder in LAV filter or change it to something not -copy.

in my case hardware decoder copy-back works badly with UHD+ videos, stuttering even without SVP/RIFE.

my benchmark RTX 4080

4kx2 HAGS ON
Output 8000 frames in 128.49 seconds (62.26 fps) 4.6
Output 8000 frames in 139.04 seconds (57.54 fps) 4.9
Output 8000 frames in 177.04 seconds (45.19 fps) 4.14
Output 8000 frames in 179.05 seconds (44.68 fps) 4.14 lite
Output 8000 frames in 181.29 seconds (44.13 fps) 4.15

1080@x5 HAGS OFF
Output 8000 frames in 50.77 seconds (157.59 fps) 4.15
Output 8000 frames in 50.25 seconds (159.21 fps) 4.14
Output 8000 frames in 37.24 seconds (214.82 fps) 4.9
Output 8000 frames in 32.78 seconds (244.02 fps) 4.6

*The benchmark is just for comparison performance between models, not for real-world video*

06-03-2024 04:39:50

framo wrote:

flowreen91 wrote:
If done correctly, restart SVP and then you should be able to see selectable AI models with (v2) in their name like this:
https://gyazo.com/9d6d1360852e8e92f834425e69803cb0
im using ncnn/vulkan and theres no drop down menu for me, am i doing sthg wrong?
i downloaded the v4.14 model and named it "rife_v.4.14f" , put the name in the rife_trt_model section in application settings. how can i make sure it is using the correct model?

Download the files here
https://github.com/styler00dollar/Vapou … ter/models

03-03-2024 19:22:34

dawkinscm wrote:

aloola wrote:
because of this bug https://github.com/AmusementClub/vs-mlrt/issues/72
if you use model v4.7+ you need to turn performance boost on else you will get the error.
Isn't this a separate issue to the TensorRT bug you refer to? I don't think the use of dynamic shapes reduces the memory footprint enough to help @oriento who is literally running out of memory. Using performance mode reduces the amount of memory being used. Lower number Rife models also use less memory. Maybe for a 20 series card a user should do both by using the SVP default Rife 4.9 which works almost as well as later Rife models but is less taxing on the GPU.

it's the same
performance boost off = dynamic shape
performance boost on = static shape

you can test it yourself with performance boost off + model v2 4.7+

03-03-2024 03:39:25

oriento wrote:

When i tried rife 4.14 v2 (i just copied the onnx file)
it gives an error on screen, and on a log file
[03/02/2024-21:34:57] [W] Could not read timing cache from: C:\Users\Attila\AppData\Roaming\SVP4\cache\Program Files (x86)/SVP 4/rife\models\rife\rife_v4.14.onnx.min64x64_opt1920x1088_max2560x1440_fp16_no-tf32_trt-8502_cudnn_I-fp16_O-fp16_NVIDIA-GeForce-RTX-2080_9c726c00.engine.cache. A new timing cache will be generated and written.
[03/02/2024-21:34:57] [E] Error[4]: [network.cpp::nvinfer1::Network::validate::3100] Error Code 4: Internal Error (input: for dimension number 1 in profile 0 does not match network definition (got min=11, opt=11, max=11), expected min=opt=max=7).)
[03/02/2024-21:34:57] [E] Error[2]: [builder.cpp::nvinfer1::builder::Builder::buildSerializedNetwork::751] Error Code 2: Internal Error (Assertion engine != nullptr failed. )
[03/02/2024-21:34:57] [E] Engine could not be created from network
[03/02/2024-21:34:57] [E] Building engine failed
[03/02/2024-21:34:57] [E] Failed to create engine from model or file.
[03/02/2024-21:34:57] [E] Engine set up failed
rtx 2080 driver 554.61
build in older versions of rife (like 4.4) works
edit : thank you, i missed that i should create a folder. Sorry for that. I have searched my error on the forum and this one wasn't listed ^^'
edit2: actually my 8gb rtx 2080 is not compatible with 4.14 or 4.14 lite, it tries to allocate exactly 8gb vram, but it can't as the vram already contains a little bit of something
[03/02/2024-23:38:14] [E] Error[2]: [virtualMemoryBuffer.cpp::nvinfer1::StdVirtualMemoryBufferImpl::resizePhysical::145] Error Code 2: OutOfMemory (no further information)
[03/02/2024-23:38:14] [E] Error[1]: [virtualMemoryBuffer.cpp::nvinfer1::StdVirtualMemoryBufferImpl::resizePhysical::132] Error Code 1: Cuda Driver (invalid argument)
[03/02/2024-23:38:14] [W] [TRT] Requested amount of GPU memory (8589934592 bytes) could not be allocated. There may not be enough free memory for allocation to succeed.
[03/02/2024-23:38:14] [W] [TRT] Skipping tactic 1 due to insufficient memory on requested size of 8589934592 detected for tactic 0x0000000000000001.
Try decreasing the workspace size with IBuilderConfig::setMemoryPoolLimit().
edit3: enabling "performance boost" fixes the memory problem

because of this bug https://github.com/AmusementClub/vs-mlrt/issues/72

if you use model v2 v4.7+ you need to turn performance boost on else you will get the error.

13-02-2024 03:34:44

VRR (GSync and Freesync Premium) enabled in the Display and NVCP = Crushed blacks and banding with d3d11va-copy running at 24FPS (even outside the VRR range, so VRR is not even working).

have you tried to turn on "G-sync compatible indicator" in Nvidia control panel?

because I tested with various mpv options, and g-sync always turn on in full screen for me. I also LG C2 48''

the green text on top right is a proof that G-sync is active
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/ … 7ab4d&

ah, I forgot. press the green button 7 times on your TV remote will show you VRR information. check if the fps there sync with your video fps

12-02-2024 15:56:06

Blackfyre wrote:

Chainik wrote:
Blackfyre
you'd better ask about the differences between d3d11va and d3d11va-copy in relation to VRR and black levels in mpv's Github.
Thanks for the recommendation, yeah, I'll try to write something later tonight.
EDIT:
Just to narrow it down even further, I just done a lot of testing before I write and report the issue later today.
First, I decreased the code to this:
ontop
fullscreen=yes
d3d11-exclusive-fs=yes
vo=gpu-next
gpu-api=d3d11
hwdec=d3d11va-copy
video-sync=audio
gpu-context=d3d11
fbo-format=rgba16hf
target-peak=800
target-contrast=inf
target-colorspace-hint=yes
HDR Enabled:
No SVP running in the background.
VRR (GSync and Freesync Premium) enabled in the Display and NVCP = Crushed blacks and banding with d3d11va-copy running at 24FPS (even outside the VRR range, so VRR is not even working).
Changing to d3d11va solves the problem. No crushed blacks or banding.
DDU uninstall nVidia drivers. Shut down the PC. Turn off GSync and Freesync from the display. Turn the PC on and install NVidia drivers.
Run again with both d3d11va-copy and d3d11va, no problems at all with both. No crushed blacks, and no banding. Everything running smoothly.
All of this without SVP.
Conclusion:
Just enabling VRR causes d3d11va-copy to crush black levels and introduce banding, even when the video playing is outside the VRR range (my range is 40Hz to 120Hz), with the HDR video playing at 24 FPS.
EDIT 2:
What's with all the crazy details they want. I just want to report an issue that is very clearly written without the need to go into so much detail they are requesting.
I click on Report a Windows Issue and it's full of so much details they want, including a LOG. Also if this is the wrong section, the post will be deleted.
So I got to the Ask a Question section, and it says if you report an issue in the ask a question section, your post will be deleted.
Wtf lol
EDIT 3:
Ended up asking it in the Questions Section, so hopefully it wont get removed @Chainik
https://github.com/mpv-player/mpv/issues/13467

have you tried
hwdec=dxva2 and dxva2-copy ?

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11 Reply by aloola 25-03-2024 22:08:37

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