Chainik wrote:

As you may notice, SVP includes various FRC algorithms, including neural network-based RIFE.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I was under the impression that the version of RIFE used was still in beta. In any case, thanks for the enlightenment!

With all due respect to the devs here, you made a great program, however, there are 2 major AI framerate interpolation programs that do this much better than SVP4; Topaz's Video AI and Flowframes, while this still uses optical flow as its base, which is a dead end as far with any advancement as far as frame interpolation is concerned, so why not update/bypass the artefact ridden optical flow?

It doesn't matter much if you can up the framerate with real-time video if the results are from an archaic AI algorithm that's full of artefacts, when there are better techniques/models out there.

Not meaning to be negative, I just need to understand the dev's view on this matter as I like the program and when you like something you want to see it improve and surpass itself!

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A new RIFE model is finally out at version 4.0, so is there any chance we can see an upgrade to the RIFE model integration with SVP?

As the Optical flow method is pretty bad in comparison as it has too many artifacts, especially if you want comparable results vs RIFE!

NOTE: I'm referring to RIFE with the post-processing for video conversion, not the real-time interpolation with videos, as OF method is perfect for that...

EDIT: Never mind, forget I mentioned this...

Thank F for that! I only use my phone to call people and as a time killer when I'm at the doctors' office; for everything else, I use my PC!

Thanks for the info! So when will we be able to use 2x-8x the frame rates?

Optical flow is pretty much obsolete with its ugly wave artifacts RIFE is much better as it doesn't have the same artifacts, though it still fragments vertical lines with clothing, etc...

...And how can I use RIFE to encode videos using SVP?

I'm not even at the script kiddie level of coder, so long as I'm able to C&P then I'm good, thanks in advance for any info you can share!

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Chainik wrote:

>  I usually set the GOP to 1

meaning every frame is a keyframe? hmm

anyway, "how to set it with the advanced setting":

g=1

Yes, or is there another way to get smooth seeking while scrubbing a video?

I use Quicktime's ping pong looping feature to view my 360 turntable animations and it's the only player in the world that has this feature (To my knowledge) and it would be impossible to view the animation with a ping-pong looping feature at a GOP setting of 250!

Thanks for the info, as trying to find g=1 with the help file's micro-script is murder on the eyes! smile

I want smooth seeking in my video so I usually set the GOP to 1, but I have no idea how to set it with the advanced setting... any help would be appreciated!

Chainik wrote:

no idea what you mean...
you can use any video player from the list
https://www.svp-team.com/wiki/Manual:Video_players

That's the thing, I cannot get any other player to feature SVP's higher frame rates, I can only use VLC/MVP through SVP's interface... it must be a codec conflict or somesuch, I'm glad to know that it's not an updated program issue!

It used to be that I could use Gom/KMP/MPC with this program, now I have to use VLC/MVP through the program? I won't be able to just fire up a video that's associated with supported players, I now have to navigate to my video folders just to get a video that HAS to play in the VLC/MVP player, hell, you can't even adjust the volume or even loop playback in that crappy player (MVP)

EDIT: It may be a setting that I'm missing...

EDIT 2: Nevermind, I did a re-install after uninstalling a codec pack, and now everything is working normally!