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RickyAstle98 wrote:

What means Lossless Scaling does not work at all in windowed mode?

Im Windows 10 and LS works perfectly well, even with RIFE combination!

I use RIFE x3 + LSFG (refresh rate) target, looks awesome!

The SVP doesnt support multiple instances, atleast RIFE workloads cannot be divided!

I tried the newest 3.something version lossless scaling - https://store.steampowered.com/app/9930 … s_Scaling/

When I enabled the scaling, it centered the video on screen and surrounded it with black borders. It did not stay windowed. I couldn't figure out what to do with it.

Good to know that multiple RIFE enhanced videos cannot be played.

In regular mode inceasing multiple video's fps seems to work: https://www.svp-team.com/forum/misc.php … mp;preview

I needed to adjust the "multiple" parameter, when I changed it from 2 to 4 in the SVP options, it allowed me to play multiple videos at 120fps. For example four videos at 120FPS use ~125W with a 5090.

Does the SVP app support multiple videos at same time?

In other words, can I get it to simultaneously increase multiple playing video's FPS to ie. 120fps?

But when I open a new MPC-HC player the video smoothing "jumps" to the newly opened player, and previously opened video's FPS drops down back to default.

I'm on Windows 11. Otherwise it seems to work well, better than Lossless Scaling on Steam, which does not work at all in windowed mode.

E: Got the RIFE AI working too, uses around 200W of GPU power. Regular mode uses 60-70W without RIFE.

RickyAstle98 wrote:

reconhell wrote:

Everytime i try to use rife it shows a CMD prompt. and it loads for a very long itme but my video never plays. This hasn't changed in 2 years. not with my rtx 4090 and rtx 5090. i dont get where you guys use this for... seems totally useless im sorry.

Try to change builder_optimization_level (SVP4/rife/vsmlrt.py) (default value: 3)

RTX 4070 timing cache
Level 1 - about 30s (attachment #1)
Level 2 - about 40s (attachment #2)
Level 3 - about 1m10s (default)

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I guess these modifications are not free and make the performance a bit worse or less 'optimized'?

RickyAstle98 wrote:

I recomend to use 4.9v2 legacy modes, always good for any type of movies, except VERY fast paced action, then 4.10+ and lite models!

The V2 models usually 15% faster than V1 models!

Also 4.26 about 1.3x more demanding than 4.9v2 (4070)

Thanks for replying. Are all the release files already v2? I don't see any file named 4.9v2

RickyAstle98 wrote:

Well, you prefer less compatible video player, my 180Hz GSync monitor works great, no matter what multipliers, targets being set!
I dont recomend RIFE x2.5 (24>60) then LSFG x2 because you will see scene transitions more often, since one half the frame being reprojected twice!

About TV VRR window, man thats just TV without LFC/SFD algorithms, which means LSFG will capture frames with JIT delays!
Anyway thanks for your testing, prefer RIFE x3 too, dont see any obvious for GPU cook, since LSFG paired w/RIFE frames allows super high refresh rate conversions with tiny amount of difference!

About tiny amount of difference, of course LSFG is bad from 24FPS conversion, but from RIFEd 48/72 - works/looks 4 times better!

I understand what you saying and I don't refute that a 180hz Gsync monitor can do much better than my tv at any multipliers. But I don't have monitors in my setup.

About Rife x2.5 I concur . whit the settings you suggested i try Rife x2+Lsfg 120hz and Rife x3 Lsfg 120hz

And for a more compatible video player. MPV for me is exactly the opposite, very jerky and stuttering playback .Maybe I change something and made mpv works like that. I really don't know.

If you have a way and time to tested mpv on a similar tv. Your recommendations will be appreciated.

Drakko01 wrote:

RickyAstle98 wrote:

[I tested RIFE x2 + LSFG 180FPS target (LSFG was updated and can generate frames without exact multipliers with consistent framepacing)!

LSFG from RIFE frames 48>180 looks almost the same as RIFE 24x7 and uses 6 times less resources!

Yeah I know, but i dont wanna pay for lsfg

LosslessScaling is the best $10 spent ever.

RickyAstle98 wrote:

Drakko01 wrote:

Hi! I recommend those who wanna experiment, the  new release https://github.com/AmusementClub/vs-mlrt/releases? for me work really well , not much as performance freak, but I KINDA improve image for me or maybe placebo effect.

Actually watching 15.9 footages, I see something changed too, anyways thats 50% placebo!

For performance freaks: 15.9 library - 1.2% performance drop!

Thanks for your testing! I mentioned am not a performance guy, because i'm more interesting of less errors and more quality, i take less performance for better quality anytime, a compromise that many of us do with a newer rife models, but anyways , im think there is some difference, less microstutters, more stable image, i can't quite figured out what exactly or if 15.9 its the reason,and honestly i dont wanna touch anything because a like the way it works now!

i DDUed to 572.70 and 572.16 (the lowest compatible with rtx 5000), and both have the same cpu usage at 100%. Indeed the gpu usage on taks manager is incorrect, but it's still less than 70%. HAGS still disabled

for me reducing the number of "gpu threads" to 1 reduce gpu and cpu load, but it's dropping a lot of frames

please update now

RickyAstle98 wrote:

osudahiuhsdfg wrote:

Does this look good for RIFE with a 5080? I get dropped frames at 48fps sometimes but if it's overclocked it seems fine. Any settings that would improve performance enough to permit 60fps? I'm using madVR so it's demanding.

1) Use v2 models (15% faster without quality difference)

2) Use multipliers instead fixed refresh rate (30>48 have double performance penalty than 30>60 for example)

Hi where are v2 models? I don't see anything about that in the settings on that page. Also, I would love to do 60FPS but as I mentioned I can barely do 48fps.