1 Reply by Insindro

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dawkinscm wrote:

Rife v4.25 is the smoothest and has the least artifacts of any Rife model, but it still has major vertical and stripey line artifacts. Running SVP with IC at 6% reduces or removes these artifacts. 8% removes less but also causes less issues elsewhere. Setting IC below 10% uses the least GPU and maybe there's less false detections? @chainik I'm sure can correct me on this. However, when there is a false detection there's more stuttering, but this is reduced by blending frames. The final piece of the puzzle is to use your media player to interpolate the output from SVP if it has this feature. I watch 4K 3D SBS movies which is the most GPU intensive processing for SVP because of the resolution and also processing has to be performed twice, once for each half. The strange thing is that even though IC below 10% clearly uses less GPU, it still works better with a mild overclock of my 4080 so YMMV.

But for this to work you must have smooth motion using as your baseline. Make sure your Anti-Virus is not causing issues. Full Screen Exclusive mode is an old technology but it works best to make sure that nothing else interferes with the SVP->PC player process chain. For Nvidia make sure you are using one of the drivers well known to not cause stuttering like 566.36. If at the end of all this, you can run even run NVOF scene change detection smoothly then you are already most of the way there smile

Thanks for the information! By any chance, have you updated your mpv config since the last time you posted it on this thread?

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2 Reply by Insindro

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Xenocyde wrote:
Insindro wrote:

Don't update to the latest nvidia driver. It lead to a noticeable performance drop when using rife.

576.28? I don't see any problems in FHD@60 Hz content with 4.22. Can't verify for higher resolutions or higher refresh rates. Are you maybe on 1440p@120+ Hz?

I watch downscaled 4k to 1080 content @60 hz on a 30 series card with 4.25/4.18. Frame drops vanished after I downgraded to a stable driver. The latest driver was the issue for me because I tried rife again with the newest driver and the frame drops came back. It might not happen for everyone.

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3 Reply by Insindro

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Don't update to the latest nvidia driver. It lead to a noticeable performance drop when using rife.

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4 Reply by Insindro

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Insindro wrote:

Can anyone tell if there’s a way to add a delay to svp’s injection?

Can anyone let me know if this is possible? Thanks!

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Can anyone tell me if there’s a way to add a delay to svp’s injection time?

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Drakko01 wrote:
dlr5668 wrote:
Insindro wrote:

What are your top 3-5 rife models and miscellaneous settings for scene changes? Just want to get a good idea of what everyone is currently using, thanks!

I like 4.15. If you need 30% faster its 4.15 light. 4.20 is nice for anime. Try these models. I only use v2 for faster seek

These days I prefer 4.18 Nvof MV/blend Adjacent Frame x3, 4k files  downscale 1920*1080 upscale 1440p(Rtx 4070ti)


I agree with both of you. 4.15 and 4.18 rife models are definitely the best models for movies so far. Anime I’m not sure about, I didn’t like 4.20’s interpolation accuracy at all. Seems it’s only beneficial if you can run at x16 interpolation. If there are any anime watchers here what rife models are you using? Let me know, thanks!

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7 Reply by Insindro

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What are your top 3-5 rife models and miscellaneous settings for scene changes? Just want to get a good idea of what everyone is currently using, thanks!

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8 Reply by Insindro

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RickyAstle98 wrote:
Blackfyre wrote:
dawkinscm wrote:

Rife v4.20 has been released. I didn't do a large amount of testing but I did check the few remaining artefacts I know of and there doesn't seem to be a clear  difference to v4.15/v4.18 on my system.

Update: Apparently v4.20 is great when using 16x interpolation with Anime. I would be interested to hear if that is helpful for anyone.

Massive difference in size! wow hopefully I can run 4K 2x with a 3090, but I highly doubt it. Usually I have to wait for the Lite v2, but even then, not all of them can run.

Idk why but everything after 4.16 v2 always not smooth, now even container fix doesnt affect 4.20v1v2 models! RTX 4070 whats wrong?

Container fix?

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9 Reply by Insindro

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Blackfyre wrote:
Insindro wrote:

Thanks for this. How would I go about enabling Dolby vision and how would I check if it’s on? My tv supports it and HDR is on but I don’t think Dolby vision is for DV content in mpv.

You're welcome.

Change hdr-compute-peak=yes to no instead. There is some HDR content that flickers with hdr-compute turned on for me on my LG C2. But maybe it depends on the monitor/TV, so keep it on, but if you notice flickering in some scenes, switch it to off.

If the colours, brightness, and black levels look good, and there is no banding, then Dolby Vision is working fine. But while using MPV, turn on CAPS lock, press i on the keyboard and it will show up the stats (information) which reveals what's being used next to colormatrix it should say dolbyvision. Turning on CAPS lock allows the information screen to stay up without fading away, pressing i again will make it go away. Without CAPS lock enabled, it comes on for a few seconds then goes away.

I’ll keep this in mind. I appreciate the help!

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10 Reply by Insindro

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Blackfyre wrote:
Chainik wrote:

Blackfyre
> Hopefully in the future you find a solution to the above as well, that would be amazing!

blinking comes from mixing two frames having different colors, so I don't see any solution for RIFE
... except inserting a "regular SVP"-generated frames at these points, but it sounds too complicated for now

Wow yeah that makes sense.

What is interesting is why does some DV content work ALMOST flawlessly with very little blinking or stutter in some TV shows, such as House of the Dragon, but then Disney TV shows with DV stutter so much now (flicker before)?

EDIT: Fixed as I just noticed it happening in very specific scenes in HoTD, but very limited.

So, I assume the answer is colour grading and luminance grading. The higher the quality and smoothness between frames, the less it occurs. And HotD is produced with very high quality.

dawkinscm wrote:
Blackfyre wrote:

For anyone interested, this is my mpv config now - you can scroll up and down in the code below to see the full config:

ontop 

dither=error-diffusion 
error-diffusion=burkes

Thanks for this. There's nothing in your config that makes a difference for SVP and we've already had the discussion about config lines that essentially do nothing or are even contradictory. But if you are happy with the picture then I suppose it doesn't matter big_smile However I am interested in the error-diffusion you chose so I will try that out. Thanks smile

Can you point out the config lines that do nothing in my latest config, and also the ones that are contradictory and what they are contradicting? I would love to tone it down and clean it up. I thought this is the cleaned-up version as I removed and changed many of the old lines after the latest SVP update that fixed flickering.

I'll post the latest config here as a quote:

ontop
fullscreen=yes
d3d11-exclusive-fs=yes

volume=100
volume-max=100

vo=gpu-next
gpu-api=d3d11
hwdec=auto-copy
hwdec-codecs=all
gpu-context=d3d11

hdr-compute-peak=yes
tone-mapping=bt.2446a
target-colorspace-hint=yes

scale=ewa_lanczos
cscale=ewa_lanczos
dscale=ewa_lanczos
tscale=ewa_lanczos

dither-depth=10
dither=error-diffusion
error-diffusion=burkes

osd-color=0.5
osd-font-size=30
osd-font='Inter Tight Medium'

#sub-gray
sub-auto=fuzzy
#sub-gauss=0.9
slang=eng,en,und
sub-fix-timing=yes
sub-filter-sdh=yes
subs-with-matching-audio=no
demuxer-mkv-subtitle-preroll=yes

sub-font-size=42
sub-border-size=1
sub-font="Verdana Bold"
sub-color=0.85/0.85/0.85/0.85

sub-pos=100
sub-margin-y=3
sub-margin-x=100

glsl-shader="C:\Users\USERNAME\AppData\Roaming\mpv\Shaders\FSRCNNX_x2_8-0-4-1.glsl"
glsl-shader="C:\Users\USERNAME\AppData\Roaming\mpv\Shaders\KrigBilateral.glsl"
glsl-shader="C:\Users\USERNAME\AppData\Roaming\mpv\Shaders\SSimDownscaler.glsl"

Thanks for this. How would I go about enabling Dolby vision and how would I check if it’s on? My tv supports it and HDR is on but I don’t think Dolby vision is for DV content in mpv.

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11 Reply by Insindro

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Could someone let me know how I’d be able to change my builder optimization level?

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In your opinions, which rife model is currently the smoothest (in terms of interpolation accuracy)?

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13 Reply by Insindro

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Blackfyre wrote:

Old post, my config has updated since then.

Agree with lots of what @dawkinscm said above too

@bombadilio DV has worked for a while I believe, but not with RIFE.

If you use RIFE, dolby vision will not work properly and you'll get issues. I'll try to remember to post my new configuration later, remind me tomorrow in case I forget @bombadilio

Yes, please post your new config when you get the chance. Thanks!

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14 Reply by Insindro

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dawkinscm wrote:
aloola wrote:

Turn off GPU decoder, and only use software decoder in player

Interesting that you say that. I don't know if you mean with mpv player but for SVP this player does work better with hardware decoding off.

How exactly would I be able to turn off gpu decoder, and use the software decoder if I'm using mpv?

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15 Reply by Insindro

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So, I tried to try out some ai models from https://github.com/styler00dollar/Vapou … ter/models and https://github.com/nihui/rife-ncnn-vulk … ter/models. Specifically the anime models but I tried most as well, although the problem still persisted. Whenever I enable any one of them through svp, my video is being interpolated smoothly however I get black frames that are flashing in the entire video that will not go away. I know I mentioned this in an earlier post but is anyone else having this problem? Any help would be great, thank you!

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dlr5668 wrote:
aloola wrote:
Insindro wrote:

Ah yes I understand now. I was just basing off from what you said on the rife AI wiki: "1080p@60-72 atleast rtx 3080". I guess a better video card is needed to achieve those frames without dealing with the drop in frames. Also the Github I was testing with was the one you provided on the wiki, all of them flicker through svp, which is odd. I wonder if I'm the only one. Nonetheless, this is better than anything I've used previously.

you can also resize the video to 1600x900 then x3 fps. Work for me, I have a 3070ti.


also, I wish  "ignore HFR source" profile has an option to turn off the "alter video frame size".

I think https://0bin.net/paste/NKODt3ka#aCSb+rh … Uu7S3e2JiD can be ported to svp as well. Ideally it should track dropped frames and reduce resolution based on these. Current iteration just uses hardcode value

maxIpps = 65000000                  # Max interpolated pixels per second the GPU is capable of

I watch 720p and below (old content) x3 and everything else x2 (1080p no changes and 4k downscale to about 1440p)

I'd like to try this out. Where would I put this exactly? I already tried in mpv/scripts however, I get an error regarding the coding in mpv's console. "Unexpected symbol near "#". So I removed any "#" but then I get hit with another error: '=' expected near 'vapoursynth'. Any help would be much appreciated.

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17 Reply by Insindro

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Chainik wrote:

> Although, anywhere above 48 fps my GPU usage sky rockets from 46% to 90%

because x2.5 interpolation (i.e. 24->60 fps) need generating TWO times more intermediate frames than x2 (24->48)

> I added another model from github and when selected I get a flickering sensation on any video

then add another model big_smile and post a bug report on the Github regarding the flickering one

Ah yes I understand now. I was just basing off from what you said on the rife AI wiki: "1080p@60-72 atleast rtx 3080". I guess a better video card is needed to achieve those frames without dealing with the drop in frames. Also the Github I was testing with was the one you provided on the wiki, all of them flicker through svp, which is odd. I wonder if I'm the only one. Nonetheless, this is better than anything I've used previously.

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18 Reply by Insindro

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Chainik wrote:

SVP updated wink

---
RIFE/CUDA removed from the script completely

This is awesome! I'm able to run 1080p@48 (real-time) smoothly. Although, anywhere above 48 fps my GPU usage sky rockets from 46% to 90%+ causing the video to gain a lot of stutter motion. Is this normal for an RTX 3080? Also one more thing, I added another model from github and when selected I get a flickering sensation on any video.

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19 Reply by Insindro

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KnightRiderKARR wrote:

***UPDATE 1/3/2022***

"""Don't Forget to go on SVP Settings and do this""" ---> ""Frames Interpolation Mode = Uniform"" + ""SVP Shader = Complicated"" + ""Artifacts masking = Weakest""

Αfter several experiments I came up with these settings (source must be 24fps)
Try and tell me if its good or not smile

levels.pel = 1;
levels.scale.up    = 1;
levels.scale.down    = 1;
levels.full     = true;
analyse.block.w    = 32;
analyse.block.h    = 32;
analyse.block.overlap    = 2;
analyse.main.levels    = 4;
analyse.main.search.type   = 8;
analyse.main.search.distance = -8;
analyse.main.search.coarse.type  = 4;
analyse.main.search.coarse.distance  = -16;
analyse.main.search.coarse.bad.range  = 0;
analyse.main.penalty.lambda   = 1.0;
analyse.main.penalty.plevel   = 4.0;
analyse.main.penalty.lsad   = 800;
analyse.main.penalty.pnew   = 5;
analyse.main.penalty.pglobal   = 5;
analyse.main.penalty.pzero   = 10;
analyse.main.penalty.pnbour   = 5;
analyse.main.penalty.prev   = 0;
analyse.refine[0] = {thsad:2000, search:{distance:2, type:4}};
smooth.rate.num = 5;
smooth.rate.den = 2;
smooth.algo = 23;
smooth.scene.mode = 0;
smooth.mask.cover = 20;
smooth.scene.limits.m1 = 3600;
smooth.scene.limits.m2 = 7200;
smooth.scene.limits.scene = 10400;
smooth.scene.limits.zero = 10;
smooth.scene.limits.blocks = 60;


- If you want 144fps ----> smooth.rate.num = 12

This trick/bug enables the Frame Conversion that you chosed on SVP Control Panel ---> //smooth.rate.num = 2  and  //smooth.rate.den = 1;    **Not 100% if it works but it works on me **

This is actually amazing !! Can you send your actual svp profile as well? Or does it not matter? Thank you!

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