narkohol wrote:

Is there any way to improve SVP to make it really as smooth as DmitriRender and reduce the artifacts in patterns?

There is a lot of potential still not discover in svp, here a example:

Reading information about that "60fps++", it was made with svp and  the "hybrid" with svp+IA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTP_0CdyJnE

I see lots of people mainly focused at anime. I'm more interested in live action as smooth as possible. Are those "60fps++" settings available somewhere?

Is there any way to improve SVP to make it really as smooth as DmitriRender and reduce the artifacts in patterns?

There is a lot of potential still not discover in svp, here a example:

Reading information about that "60fps++", it was made with svp and  the "hybrid" with svp+IA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTP_0CdyJnE

If you want to get a really good quality with the least amount of artifacts possible use this: https://www.svp-team.com/wiki/RIFE_AI_interpolation

I've been doing some comparision tests lately:

this is the original file, 23.976fps:
https://mega.nz/file/RNoFTRSI#ff2Ftwxg6 … 0ZDuFOQsrY

This is Flowframes RIFE 4 at 48fps:
https://mega.nz/file/cVpR3LaR#l7X_rKjy9 … nFHTLO8OG8

This is TVP at 48fps:
https://mega.nz/file/QBwSQQpY#0Rit0oLPh … hG9DUtWHHU

and this is DmitriRender at 60fps:
https://mega.nz/file/lABzxQIT#eaMpUXa2K … plhWA1ldQc

to record the DmitriRender solution I used Nvidia's Shadowplay capturing the PotPlayer window at Fullscreen
as you can see, both RIFE and TVP have similar artifacts on the left wall with the lines

while DmitriRender has almost none in comparision, even when the x2 48fps plays in favor of both RIFE and TVP, vs the x2.5025 60fps in DmitriRender

Normal SVP (non RIFE) has similar artifacts to RIFE.

I tried using SVP settings suggested on this thread: https://www.svp-team.com/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=80895 and this other one: https://www.svp-team.com/forum/search.p … er_id=7145
but it still isn't as smooth or artifact free as DmitriRender in this scene example.

Is there any way to improve SVP to make it really as smooth as DmitriRender and reduce the artifacts in patterns?

...a year later, graphics card prices shot into space, and this year has brought further problems and massive inflation in most countries around the world.

Fortunately, the performance of RIFE over the past year has improved enormously https://www.svp-team.com/forum/viewtopi … 426#p78426 and there is a chance that it will also improve in the future, allowing owners of also more accessible GPUs to enjoy RIFE interpolation in better quality.

I also want, by showing the potential performance of NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090, to encourage as many people as possible to test RIFE. The more of us there are, the greater the chance that artificial intelligence in video frame interpolation will not only be the domain of researchers, but will also have real-world applications in real-time interpolation, which SVP is famous for.

cemaydnlar wrote:

I have no idea if it works or not. It says estimated fps 48. When i try to do 60fps or above it gets laggy. I couldn't see a difference between x2 and normal video playback. x2 is just a little bit smoother. I get 0 arifacts with x2.

If at x2 is a little bit smoother it means that interpolation is working and this should be the case for video with 8-bit colour depth. At the moment only one person with a GeForce 30 series graphics card has done a thorough test on a 1080p file: https://www.svp-team.com/forum/viewtopi … 477#p80477 and based on the fps we can assume that at the moment x2 for 1080p for your card is the maximum. If you want more: x3 or x4 then 720p files are left on the ground.

Perhaps there will be some optimisation of RIFE in the future. In any case, I estimate that I will need 116% more powerful graphics card than the ZOTAC GAMING GeForce RTX 3070 Ti AMP Extreme Holo to interpolate x5 1080p video files: https://www.svp-team.com/forum/viewtopi … 480#p80480 I suppose this will be more than possible for NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090 graphics cards.

Oh well... artificial intelligence comes at a price.

Well i live in TUrkey. A rtx 3090 ti costs 62.000 Try in here. If i go with the minimum a 4090 will cost maybe over 90k. You can buy a house with the same amount if you see that as even currency unit

I have no idea if it works or not. It says estimated fps 48. When i try to do 60fps or above it gets laggy. I couldn't see a difference between x2 and normal video playback. x2 is just a little bit smoother. I get 0 arifacts with x2.

If at x2 is a little bit smoother it means that interpolation is working and this should be the case for video with 8-bit colour depth. At the moment only one person with a GeForce 30 series graphics card has done a thorough test on a 1080p file: https://www.svp-team.com/forum/viewtopi … 477#p80477 and based on the fps we can assume that at the moment x2 for 1080p for your card is the maximum. If you want more: x3 or x4 then 720p files are left on the ground.

Perhaps there will be some optimisation of RIFE in the future. In any case, I estimate that I will need 116% more powerful graphics card than the ZOTAC GAMING GeForce RTX 3070 Ti AMP Extreme Holo to interpolate x5 1080p video files: https://www.svp-team.com/forum/viewtopi … 480#p80480 I suppose this will be more than possible for NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090 graphics cards.

Oh well... artificial intelligence comes at a price.

blackmickey1007 wrote:

The RGBS format is supported by RIFE.
YUV444P16 can be converted to RGBS format with almost no loss.

At the moment I don't have a RIFE compliant graphics card to run the tests.
I am relying on what the creator of Flowframes wrote a long time ago:

HDR is currently not supported as the neural networks only work with 8bpp content.

https://github.com/n00mkrad/flowframes/issues/40

and on the fact that already several people had problems with 10bit colour depth videos.

Did you manage to interpolate 10-bit video with RIFE in SVP?

I have no idea if it works or not. It says estimated fps 48. When i try to do 60fps or above it gets laggy. I couldn't see a difference between x2 and normal video playback. x2 is just a little bit smoother. I get 0 arifacts with x2.

The RGBS format is supported by RIFE.
YUV444P16 can be converted to RGBS format with almost no loss.

At the moment I don't have a RIFE compliant graphics card to run the tests.
I am relying on what the creator of Flowframes wrote a long time ago:

https://github.com/n00mkrad/flowframes/issues/40

and on the fact that already several people had problems with 10bit colour depth videos.

Did you manage to interpolate 10-bit video with RIFE in SVP?

In the image you posted above:

Pixel Format: p010

Try to use 8-bit colour depth video.

I guess it works. Since estimated fps is 48. Can you check if it is the same on your mpv?

Pixel Format: p010

Try to use 8-bit colour depth video.

I recently helped friend setting up SVP. It was as easy as manual install + copy mpv setting folder to appdata (optional). RIFE worked fine out of the gate

Did everything according to svp rife manuel. Fps stays the same as in the image i posted above.

I'm doing everything as it says.

cemaydnlar wrote:

Ok i'll give rife a try. Is a rtx 3070 enough for x2 ?

Yes, as long as it is video with no more than 1080p resolution, 8-bit colour depth without HDR

cemaydnlar wrote:

I am selecting rife interpolation but my fps stays at 24 ? What am i doing wrong ? Can you help me use rife?

Read this first:
https://www.svp-team.com/wiki/RIFE_AI_interpolation

Set the following values:

AI model: Generic (v4)
GPU threads: 2
GPU device: https://www.svp-team.com/forum/viewtopi … 170#p80170
RIFE via CUDA: Off

If you continue to have problems read what problems others had and how they dealt with them:

whole threads:
https://www.svp-team.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=6580
https://www.svp-team.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=6553

also read my thread from Chainik's post of April 28 to the end, everything should work from then on:
https://www.svp-team.com/forum/viewtopi … 360#p80360

skip it altogether: == RIFE / PyTorch installation == it's too slow now
https://www.svp-team.com/forum/viewtopi … 372#p80372

I'm doing everything as it says. I'm using mpv player. Still fps stays 24. Couldn't find the reason.

https://imgur.com/a/H85vrP8 this is the way it looks.