4K @ 60Hz @ 4:4:4 @ 8-Bit vs 4K @ 60Hz @ 4:2:0 @ 10-Bit

> Does SVP support 10-Bit content?

it'll be converted to 8 bit 4:2:0

> Is SVP limited to only processing at 4:2:0?

yep

I wonder where exactly are you planning to get 4K HDR 10 bit movies?

I got the TV on a crazy special for less than half-price directly from Sony.
wow, it's cheaper than my phone

anyway, the only (?) possible source for HDR movies is UHD-BR (not taking into account all that Youtube shit), which is still not cracked
no crack - no playback in 3rd-party players w/o DRM - no SVP

Thanks for the links.

Yeah from my understanding people download and put content on an external HDD, which is connected directly to the TV via USB (which plays HDR 10Bit content).

However, I thought MPC + Madvr already supports HDR? Madvr certainly has the settings for it under the display settings.

No Madvr dosen't yet support HDR output.
What it does support is a very high quality HDR to SDR conversion, so you can watch HDR clips on a non HDR connection with some retained quality enhancement to the SDR version of the clip. If you crank up your backlight(for LCD screens)/OLED light setting and tune madvr's HDR conversion setting for it.

But for some reason madvr and LAV filter dosen't pick up the HDLeaders releases as being HDR BT.2020 files, as it does work with the various demo-uhd3d.com files correctly. I don't know why.
The right media info metadata seems to be included in the mkv.
The HDLeader releases is reported to work on LG HDR 4k and Samsung HDR 4k screens inbuilt players.
One tricky thing is that some releases have ATMOS audio, and at least the LG's can't play that so you will have to remux in som lesser & supported audio track from another release.

As far as i think it works is, HDLeader uses Zeus BT.709 WCG 4k releases and then reinserts the HDR curve with the SMPTE ST2086 static metadata in the mkv somehow.
But i really don't know how he does it, he reveal some info if you read the comments in the 1337x site, but it is really not much to go on.

I don't have access to a real UHD-BR discs or a player, but i have tested a HDR BT.2020 HDLeader release and a "normal" 4k BT.709 Zeus release of the same movie (Mad Max).
And.......it looks AMAZING

The HDR mkv does activate the HDR function on a compatible LG TV and it does look better (much more intense from the HDR on anything bright and much wider colour palette from the WCG features) than the straight 4k 10 bit 4:2:0 BT.709 Zeus rip. And just the straight Zeus rip looks already more than great. But HDR + WCG on top of that is an whole other level.

I have checked out several of the releases and i think it is legit as far as 4k HDR UHD Rip. Of course i can't compare with the real disc.

The day madvr or another renderer/player with high grade chroma upsampling & 3D lut support + SVP supports HDR output through the new HDR windows 10 interface/API, it will look better than any UHD-BR standalone player can offer
And I still hold a hope that madshi will add vaporsynth interface one day to madvr.

So bottom line, if you have a HDR screen and no UHD-BR disc or player.
YOU have to try it out it will blow you away Of course depending on how good the screen is though.

The general consensus seems to be, anything LG 4K OLED panel based (LG/Loewe/Panasonic) is the best, then the various high end Samsung and Sony FALD LCD screens and then everything less begins to be less impressive for maximum HDR dynamic range impact.
In terms of maximum contrast and highest light output that the screens can support.

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EDIT update

I checked these HDLeder 4K BT.2020 with HDR releases some more.

And unfortunately there is some problems with them.
He has used Zeus normal BT.709 4k UHD release and reinserts the HDR curve with the SMPTE ST2086 static metadata in the mkv.

But he also expands the normal compressed BT.709 gamut to WCG DCI BT.2020.
And the result is over saturated colors

On an LG TV you can switch the Color gamut to standard from wide and it will look right again but still with glorious HDR.
This should be possible in madvr if madvr support HDR output in the future also.

I also got a hdr tv recently and from what i know madvr does support hdr (make sure to unmark ffdshow raw filter svp needs) then when you ctrl+j you see madvr saying 10bit atleast it did here.
as for how to compare hdr to standard i have no idea (other then placing another tv next to it and a normal version of the movie) how to see if its actually hdr or making a difference.

edit : also set madvr to passthru hdr to the display so the display handles it

Update, basically fixed the issue of most 4K content by using MPC x64. However I was trying to watch Jason Bourne, which is in 4K x265 10-Bit HEVC and even using Enhanced Video Renderer instead of Madvr did not fix the frame-rate issues. CPU usage goes through the roof. Impossible to watch. Without SVP, just using MPC, the movie uses 45% of the CPU to run.

EDIT:

I changed a lot of things, I think selecting "Keep Normal Size" under "Video Frame" settings fixed the issue... I don't why, but CPU usage decreased significantly.

Haha thanks for the reply. Yeah I forgot to update about that. 10-Bit content looks fantastic with MPV (Right click on SVP and "Open file via MPV"). However, it lags! HORRIBLY! CPU usage is through the roof, and the video is just unwatchable. I see one frame move every few seconds. So if there's a way to change MPV settings, let me know. That would be great. Check the picture below of SVP Performance Monitor.

http://i.imgur.com/jFDG9fI.jpg

EDIT #1:

Changing the profile to AUTOMATIC, and then using the slider to put it on Higher Performance + High Artifact Masking and now it works perfectly smooth at around 40% CPU usage with my 4790K @ 4.6Ghz right now. But I can't use my custom settings with 10-Bit content. It requires much more power to work than 8-Bit videos. I'm going to go test Jason Bourne, I think I have that in 4K @ 10-Bit.

EDIT #2: It all depends on the content... Some content lags like crazy no matter what...

Great! It's killing me though, I have Jason Bourne in 4K 10Bit, but I cannot run it smoothly. CPU usage is at 100% and it cannot handle it. Using MPV.
I have other content in 4K, they all run smoothly and fine with around 50% to 60% CPU usage with MPC + Madvr, but 10Bit 4K is a no go with SVP + MPV.

My 4790K @ 4.6Ghz cannot handle it, even if I choose automatic profile and set it to higher performance, CPU usage is still around 100% and it cannot be handled.

Edit: On Automatic profile @ higher performance, using MPC+Madvr it runs fine, but not in 10Bit obviously; the Jason Bourne movie uses 60% CPU. In comparison, The Grand Tour @ 4K with MPC+Madvr runs with 22% CPU usage not using my settings, using automatic profile and higher performance preset as with Jason Bourne movie.

With my custom profile, even MPC+Madvr can't run Jason Bourne smoothly, even though it's not running in 10Bit, the CPU struggles running @ 100%.

The main question I have; is there a way to edit all the MPV settings? Because ALL 4K content cannot be handled with MPV. They all use high CPU usage and drop frames.

I have not tested with VLC yet.

EDIT:

Followed the instructions and set it up, was slightly confusing at first, but got around it, forgot to add the environmental variables the first time, it worked the second time.

Problem is my CPU still cannot handle the 10Bit 4K files (even with the lowest SVP settings), however the strange thing is VLC & MPV demand MUCH MORE power than MPC + Madvr + SVP.

It's strange because using MPC+Madvr+SVP I can run any 4K content (except 10Bit 4K) using my own custom settings for SVP very smoothly. Maybe it's because the LAV Video Filter is directing NVIDIA CUVID to do hardware acceleration for HEVC? While using VLC & MPV, the CPU tries to do this decoding, and it just adds A LOT more power on it that it cannot handle?

What is this? Can I input this code somewhere to make MPV use my GPU for x265 HEVC decoding instead of the CPU?

If so, please include instructions or link me to a thread where it has already been discussed on how to do all this.

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Also instead of making a new thread, I'll just post this here, new MPC just came out 5 minutes ago. I update through SVP, so I'll wait for it there